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In response to "a writer on Suits, which was been #1 on Netflix all month or longer, got less than $300 in streaming residuals for all them views -- (link)" by hollywood big shot

Movies/TV creators and actors are running into what recording artists have been dealing with for the past decade. And they don't have a union to

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Aug 10 '23, 15:12

really fall back on for this. Streaming sucks for those creating content. Great for consumers (though I'm not sure the television streaming is working out that way), but terrible for the creatives.

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Netflix only just became profitable after more than a decade of piling up debt. it's a terrible value proposition for the studios too - hollywood big shot Aug 10, 15:16 8
- Musicians (and record labels) have been no fans of streaming either, but in both cases they essentially got overrun by the will of consumers who were - pmb Aug 10, 15:45 6
  - labels own the copyright. they could put the screws to Spotify for more money if they really wanted to (and even pass some of it along to the artists) -- nm - hollywood big shot Aug 10, 15:54 5
    - Didn't the labels take Spotify equity so they could avoid sharing revenue with artists? -- nm - psilotum Aug 10, 16:11 1
      - sounds like something they would do -- nm - hollywood big shot Aug 10, 16:12
    - Theoretically, but that's how consumers listen now so they don't have a ton of leverage. Taylor Swift took her music off spotify for a while based on - pmb Aug 10, 16:06 2
      - not being facetious but Snoop Dogg gets what the issue is and wouldn't be surprised if he tried to organize something like a talent strike against the - hollywood big shot Aug 10, 16:14 1
        
        There have been artists who have been pushing for legislation (there is legislation around other music copyrights like the costs for someone to play a - pmb Aug 10, 16:26
- (the difference with music is TV/film creators have been begging the studios to stop driving their good business model off a cliff for a while) - hollywood big shot Aug 10, 15:20

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