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In response to ""“Since COVID, there’s a 20% decline in available moviegoers,” a high-level studio executive who requested anonymity told TheWrap."" by David

were they unavailable for Barbie and Oppenheimer? or just all the other tired franchise retreads? -- nm

Posted by hollywood big shot (aka pickmix) Aug 16 '23, 13:40

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I concede you know the industry way better than I do. But I don't think that either movie are fundamentally altering the overall movie-going audience. - Name Withheld By Request Aug 16, 13:53 10
- Right. It's the same as Top Gun: Maverick, and it's the point we're always making on the podcast. This system requires a thriving middle. -- nm - David Aug 16, 14:09 8
  - "the system" gutted the thriving middle to chase IP Tentpole Franchises for the past 15 years because dipshits like the one in the Wrap article - hollywood big shot Aug 16, 14:13 7
    - if The System had had its way, Paramount would have dumped Maverick to P+ a year earlier - hollywood big shot Aug 16, 14:17 6
      - You aren't wrong about that, but I think you're downplaying that "movie going audiences" are a declining, not growing, pool. - Name Withheld By Request Aug 16, 14:22 5
        
        It’s been declining for 70 years. Studios just accelerated it in the last few years by conditioning people to wait a few weeks and catch whatever on - Will Hunting Aug 16, 14:29 4
        
        I dunno. I think the 70s through 00s fundamentally expanded the number of people who considered going to the movies to be a normal casual activity. - Name Withheld By Request Aug 16, 14:50
        
        That wasn't studios. That was people training their kids to second-screen. - David Aug 16, 14:36 2
        
        2019 had limited problems. Why bother going to pay 12 a ticket if I can wait 12 weeks? - Will Hunting Aug 16, 14:40 1
        
        That was four years ago, grandpa. - The Allfather Aug 16, 15:12
- what is an "event"? there's nothing inherently more "event-y" about a toy movie and a biopic than any other typical summer movie - hollywood big shot Aug 16, 13:58
"“Unless you luck into a cultural event, you have to presume that your film will make around 80% of what it might have previously earned.”" - David Aug 16, 13:41 10
- Quick Streaming turnaround keeping people away at this point. (?) Also lets not spend $300M on a movie. -- nm* - budice Aug 16, 13:57 2
  - The second statement is the crux of the article. -- nm - David Aug 16, 14:08
  - all these anonymous studio execs in giant hot dog suits are going to find out who collapsed the theatrical window - hollywood big shot Aug 16, 13:59
- ah yes the old "luck into a cultural event" exception to the rule -- nm - hollywood big shot Aug 16, 13:43 1
  - "You, Strawberry! Hit a home run!" -- nm - Reagen Aug 16, 13:44
- Even that 80% feels optimistic to me -- nm - Beryllium Aug 16, 13:41 4
  - this is the bullshit that lazy execs tell themselves when their IP Franchise Tentpole business model starts to eat its own tail - hollywood big shot Aug 16, 13:44 2
    - Riddick 7: Darker Than Pitch -- nm - Beryllium Aug 16, 14:25 1
      - audiences didn't turn out for my crummy live-action Aristocats remake? gotta be the coves -- nm - hollywood big shot Aug 16, 14:28
  - (It is.) -- nm - David Aug 16, 13:42

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