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Sweet fancy Moses. Just heard first election radio ad. Trump against Biden and UAW deal. Bidens lying. Sold you out to China EV interests.

Posted by VMan Sep 20 '23, 12:40

It’s going to be a long (just over a) year.

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Trump got exactly the same share of union votes (40%) as Mitt "Let Detroit Die" Romney. "Reagan Democrats" have voted against their own interests for - hollywood big shot Sep 20, 12:55 11
- The other day was an interesting? argument. Pointing out pay discrepancies the (I assume) MAGAt ranted that the CEOs pay adds nothing to vehicle cost - VMan Sep 20, 13:26 2
  - marketing (selling americans on $90k gas guzzlers that get 20mpg) is like 40% of the jacked up sticker price. labor costs are 5% -- nm - hollywood big shot Sep 20, 13:29 1
    - Don Draper’s gotta eat, too! -- nm - VMan Sep 20, 13:34
- It appears MI may be slowly becoming blue. However, there are still chucklenuts that feel change is handled by kidnapping and killing foes. -- nm - VMan Sep 20, 12:57 7
  - I'm rooting for MI, WI, PA, GA, AZ, etc next year! (sorry to our friends in TN, IN, FL, TX, OH, etc) -- nm - mud Sep 20, 13:15 2
    - playing with the interactive 270toWin map already: -- (pic) - mud Sep 20, 13:27 [Attachment]
    - (and by "sorry" I mean best wishes and all that .. I can't imagine, it must worse than living in Alberta) -- nm - mud Sep 20, 13:17
  - the bigger tension is IRA is encouraging (requiring really) domestic EV production by foreign carmakers and they're all going to non-union states -- nm - hollywood big shot Sep 20, 13:03 3
    - I’m assuming regulations, labour in particular, favours that. However, I think long term they are still better where they are. JMHO. -- nm - VMan Sep 20, 13:10 2
      - to get the EV tax credits under IRA production and assembly have to be entirely domestic. the foreign companies have fully embraced that mandate - hollywood big shot Sep 20, 13:11 1
        
        Ah. Was thinking domestic. All their assets (infrastructure, skilled workers, plants, etc.) are essentially in place. - VMan Sep 20, 13:18
Ill say this, the maga machine is indeed well oiled. this is all preliminary stuff getting rolled out before his big meeting with the UAW (the day of - Jovian Sep 20, 12:48 1
- Yup. I’m waiting for him to encourage a new Stanley Steamer that will run on clean coal. More jobs! -- nm* - VMan Sep 20, 12:50
I guess that's one good thing about MO no longer being a swing state. Nobody bothers to do ads here anymore. -- nm - spamlet Sep 20, 12:46
What state? Are you in a swing state? Is there a lot big 3 auto plants? -- nm - zeitgeist Sep 20, 12:41 3
- South Detroit. -- nm - VMan Sep 20, 12:42 2
  - born and raised? -- nm - rollo Sep 20, 13:25 1
    - Not born. Mostly raised (40+ years). Been in a lot smoky rooms that smelt of wine and cheap perfume. -- nm - VMan Sep 20, 13:28

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Sweet fancy Moses. Just heard first election radio ad. Trump against Biden and UAW deal. Bidens lying. Sold you out to China EV interests.

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