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In response to "IDF apparently not even denying that they bombed this refugee camp -- (link)" by hollywood big shot

you mean "bombed a Hamas-filled bunker, intentionally housed under a heavily populated area"? -- nm*

Posted by mud Oct 31 '23, 12:23

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[response deleted] -- nm - znufrii, vice president Oct 31, 13:23
Can you help me understand your point here? Are you saying that makes it okay? -- nm - ty97 Oct 31, 13:08 9
- Though I'm sure mud can speak for himself, I'll try to provide some context (goes back to a degree to my post the other day). Everybody hates this. - pmb Oct 31, 13:27 8
  - Thanks for this. Can you clarify which peace plan was rejected? I'm assuming it was the plan from 2008 (b/w Olmert + Abbas, sponsored by Bush) -- nm - Roger More Oct 31, 13:38 5
    - Camp David and others through 2008. And part of the problem of continuing negotiations was the ongoing attacks. There is really nobody on the - pmb Oct 31, 13:50 2
      - Yeah, there certainly hasn’t been a credible negotiating partner on the Palestinian side for a long time. Israel has had a rocky road there as well - Roger More Oct 31, 14:05 1
        
        I think Israel's issues have been more recent (mostly just related to the blind ambition of Netanyahu (though there are issues with the extreme - pmb Oct 31, 14:23
    - Oh hang on, you're probably thinking of Barak's proposal in 2000, which Arafat rejected. -- nm - Roger More Oct 31, 13:50 1
      - Yep. -- nm - pmb Oct 31, 13:50
  - I appreciate your view. I will offer my thought that "who bears responsibility" does not have to be an either/or answer. -- nm - ty97 Oct 31, 13:31 1
    - It's never going to be binary. War is messy and awful. But there has always been a tendency to point the finger at Israel (I'm not sure I've ever - pmb Oct 31, 13:55
that doesn't make innocent civilians any less dead. -- nm - Andie Oct 31, 12:55 1
- indeed. -- nm - mud Oct 31, 13:28
Which conversely allows and gives Israel license to bomb whatever and whomever the hell they want. - Jovian Oct 31, 12:32 5
- reductio ad absurdum -- nm - mud Oct 31, 12:39 4
  - expeliarmus! -- nm* - rollo Oct 31, 12:42 3
    - redrum! -- nm - Spawn Oct 31, 12:45 2
      - 42! -- nm - budice Oct 31, 12:46 1
        
        oh my -- nm - sulu Oct 31, 12:49

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