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I am kind of MDHish with marvel. when everyone was saying that wandavision was full of easter eggs and in jokes for people who'd seen all the movies,

Posted by 🏳️‍🌈 mandy chem 🏳️‍🌈 (aka amanda) Nov 14 '23, 10:40

I felt excluded because I had not. so I didn't watch it and then started only watching things that actually interested me. hawekeye, she hulk, shang chi, everything spider-man.

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Wandavision was sublime. -- nm - Spawn Nov 14, 11:17 14
- So is Hawkeye. -- nm - David Nov 14, 11:35 12
  - I need more Kate/Yelena banter, asap -- nm - mud Nov 14, 12:10 7
    - I can't wait for Kamala to meet Yelena. -- nm - Remlik Nov 14, 12:30
    - spoilers for Marvels -- (edited) - Spawn Nov 14, 12:27 2
      - ah -- nm - mud Nov 14, 12:30 1
        
        Cute scene. - Spawn Nov 14, 12:35
    - Worth a rewatch: 5 minutes of Kate & Yelena -- (link) - Max Nov 14, 12:21 [youtube] 2
      - Whenever YT recommends these, I watch. -- nm - David Nov 14, 12:28
      - :-D -- nm - mud Nov 14, 12:27
  - Hawkeye was very good (as mary said, charming). But no way do I put it near the level of Wandavision or Loki. -- nm - Spawn Nov 14, 11:54 2
    - Leaps and bounds above Secret Invasion. Maybe a bit better than Ms Marvel. Better than She-Hulk. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 14, 12:20 1
      - Don't get me wrong, easily 3rd. Just a step below those two. -- nm - Spawn Nov 14, 12:26
  - I loved hawkeye. again, very charming (which is what I want in my marvel pieces). -- nm - 🏳️‍🌈 mandy chem 🏳️‍🌈 Nov 14, 11:49
- Truly -- nm - Pippy 🏳️‍🌈 aka lady on the plane Nov 14, 11:21
I gave up on Marvel when I decided it was too much effort. It was too interconnected and too much. -- nm - Dano Nov 14, 11:00 25
- You said what I feel is the main issue here very succinctly. -- nm - MDH Nov 14, 11:08 24
  - Heh. And supposedly we're headed towards Secret Wars which is uh, counts on fingers, a point in comics history close to when you were born -- (edited) - JD Nov 14, 11:18 23
    - wrong secret wars -- nm - Remlik Nov 14, 11:45 17
      - wait, there's more than one ? -- nm - decline Nov 14, 11:46 16
        
        Yup. Jonathan Hickmans Secret Wars from 2015. which is what this whole multiverse thing is leading to - Remlik Nov 14, 11:48 14
        
        Hickman wrote a stunning 8 year storyline in Fantastic Four and FF (2 seperate books),& then Avengers & New Avengers that dovetailed into Secret Wars -- nm - Remlik Nov 14, 11:52
        
        *laugh* so not Secret Wars II either - JD Nov 14, 11:52 12
        
        oh and there was a Secret Wars III which was going to be a HUGE thing, but after SC2 was a dud they just ran it in FF 318 and 319 -- nm - Remlik Nov 14, 12:00
        
        nope and your secret wars was in 1984. Hickman's was in 2015. It was safe to use. Plus brand awareness for the old timers -- nm - Remlik Nov 14, 11:53 10
        
        So now that I'm actually trying to comprehend your original post and not just be mad / old, uh, so Secret Wars is like Marvel's Crisis reset? - JD Nov 14, 11:58 8
        
        Yeah a bit. in 2015 they closed down the Ultimate Universe but there was a HUGELY popular character there (Miles Morales) - Remlik Nov 14, 12:04 6
        
        Which was annoying because I liked the Ultimate versions - Reagen Nov 14, 12:23 5
        
        But by that point the Ultimate Versions you liked...most of them were dead and sales of Ultimate books were plummenting - Remlik Nov 14, 12:34
        
        Uhm... you might want to avoid the version starting now, then. - Spawn Nov 14, 12:29 3
        
        incorrect. it's better to say.....yet. -- nm - Remlik Nov 14, 12:35 2
        
        Will still not be the version we have known. - Spawn Nov 14, 12:37 1
        
        Well of course not. This is a new Universe. so why would it be a version we know? - Remlik Nov 14, 12:51
        
        yes and no -- nm - Spawn Nov 14, 12:01
        
        Beyonder! -- nm - Spawn Nov 14, 11:55
        
        that's the secret -- nm - hollywood big shot Nov 14, 11:47
    - The Civil War checklists were equally eye rolly. -- nm - Reagen Nov 14, 11:30 1
      - We actually collected the whole set, only to lose it in the fire. -- nm - David Nov 14, 11:48
    - i have the Secret Wars from 1984 when Venom first shows up - hollywood big shot Nov 14, 11:23 1
      - I have that as well. Bagged, acid free boarded along with the rest of the series. - JD Nov 14, 11:31
    - I wasn't born yet, but close! -- nm - MDH Nov 14, 11:20
I went back to watching Peggy Carter last night and really enjoy it. I'd watch more pre-1960s Marvel. -- nm - Max Nov 14, 10:57
i see almost none of them now, i also figure i am missing 80% of it all, and more people will drop out as time passes for this reason. The last Marvel - Andie Nov 14, 10:54
I also think we can't discount that the quality hasn't been there since Endgame, for the most part. It is subjective, of course. But... - Marlowe Nov 14, 10:53
I lost interest awhile back and recently cancelled D+ without having watched most anything released in the past 2 years -- (edited) - decline Nov 14, 10:48
Moon Knight is pretty much self contained and IMO has an epic acting performance at the heart of it -- nm - JD Nov 14, 10:47
I think people oversell the requirement. It's a "nice to have" not "need to have". -- nm - Reagen Nov 14, 10:46 1
- I suspect that you're correct. but the sell from fans feels different than that, and that's always the loudest voice. -- nm - 🏳️‍🌈 mandy chem 🏳️‍🌈 Nov 14, 10:48
when i was trying to sell the women in my w.g. on She Hulk, it's the first point of my pitch (and they watch a lot more MCU than i ever have) - hollywood big shot Nov 14, 10:43 1
- exactly. I don't want to have to do homework to go the movies. when we were watching hawkeye, I kept having to stop and ask questions - 🏳️‍🌈 mandy chem 🏳️‍🌈 Nov 14, 10:48

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