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Open AI: Sam Altman negotiating return. Current CEO to resign if info not given to him on Sam's departure -- nm

Posted by budice Nov 21 '23, 10:01

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I never heard of this person until two days ago. -- nm - Jovian Nov 21, 10:22 9
- I'm right with you. I've been like "Am I supposed to have some sort of an opinion here? I have no idea who this is or why it matters." -- nm - Volnelk Nov 21, 10:34 1
  - I think it matters a lot in that it indicates a power struggle over the future (profits) of AI, and MSFT is the power player in the game -- nm - rollo Nov 21, 10:40
- You mean you never heard of Loopt? - Beryllium Nov 21, 10:28 6
  - never heard of this or Y combinator or worldcoin. -- nm - Jovian Nov 21, 10:32 5
    - Oh, paul graham is someone you should totally be chums with. - Beryllium Nov 21, 10:37 3
      - Thiel is human filth. -- (edited) - Jovian Nov 21, 10:44
      - (These are the people who have aided in the perversion of technology, in much the same way exxon and shell have perverted climate change response) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 21, 10:39 1
        
        and funding the JD Vances of the world -- nm - hollywood big shot Nov 21, 10:40
    - you must never read the wikipedia entry for Palantir -- nm - Werner Herzog Nov 21, 10:35
I’m not seeing much concern given at all to the originating thought that AI tech is moving too fast and will break things. - Qale Nov 21, 10:08 16
- depending who you believe it’s literally why the board fired Altman to begin with -- nm - hollywood big shot Nov 21, 10:09 15
  - Right. That part of the story got dropped for the intrigue and it’s like, waaaait a minute. -- nm - Qale Nov 21, 10:13 13
    - the only ones throwing a tantrum to bring him back to OpenAI (perhaps unsurprisingly) are Sequoia Capital et al - hollywood big shot Nov 21, 10:14 12
      - well, and almost all employees said they would quit if he stayed fired and then OpenAI would be f*cked. -- nm - Andie Nov 21, 10:19 11
        
        Those employees are about to lose a ton of $ from their startup not cashing out. Some of it is the cult of Sam but some of it is probably $ also -- nm - oblique Nov 21, 10:20 10
        
        sure, but whatever the reason, if OpenAI loses all it's talent, where does that leave OpenAI? -- nm - Andie Nov 21, 10:21 9
        
        Hobbled. Unable to pursue its purported mission of steering the industry toward benevolent AI. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 21, 10:29 4
        
        It's an interesting situation. If the board is presumably required to act in the best interest of the non-profit, it seemingly killed itself - oblique Nov 21, 10:37 1
        
        MSFT sitting there ready to pick up the pieces, with no inconvenient altruism to hold them back -- nm - rollo Nov 21, 10:41
        
        but that is the board's mission, not lining Microsoft and VC's pockets with cash at the expense of the rest of humanity -- nm - hollywood big shot Nov 21, 10:36 1
        
        Hence the power struggle we're seeing play out -- nm - rollo Nov 21, 10:40
        
        Dead. But those employees either want 1) Microsoft jobs (presumably with the cash incentive) 2) Altman back at OpenAI so that they can get their $ -- nm - oblique Nov 21, 10:25 3
        
        what would be a typical ratio of vested employees with stock options to those with just jobs? -- nm - zeitgeist Nov 21, 10:37 2
        
        The vast majority of their 800 employees have an equity stake -- nm* - rollo Nov 21, 10:44
        
        not sure. OpenAI is also seemingly a bit unique in how it structured its compensation -- (link) - oblique Nov 21, 10:40
  - AI starts to write things, WGA on strike again -- nm - budice Nov 21, 10:11
but his Microsoft… -- nm - hollywood big shot Nov 21, 10:04

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