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In response to "i wouldn't call Hamilton a suburb, but for ST purposes calling Burlington a suburb seems fair. It is a city, about 45 minutes out of Toronto, and -- (edited)" by Andie

Hee, guess I'm thinking back to when my Dad worked in Burlington and they lived in Oakville. Toronto was waaay up the lakeshore ;)

And Kitchener, where we were, was out in the woods - or at least the maple orchards.

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