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In response to "DOJ Apple breakdown via Hard Fork: 1) Super apps 2) Cloud gaming 3) Messaging (green bubble) 4) Accessories (Smart Watches) 5) Apple Pay (NFC)" by oblique

except for all of those, there are multiple cheaper competitors offering basically the same thing in the marketplace. and i'm guessing only a fraction

Posted by hollywood big shot (aka pickmix) Mar 22 '24, 06:16

of iPhone users actually use things like Apple Pay or pair it with an Apple Watch

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First, a lot do use those, but second I think it's about the fact that you can't use them with people who don't have apple. When I was on vacation - pmb Mar 22, 06:25 4
- The group chat is how they get you. All the high school kids have to get an iPhone or they’re out of the loop. -- nm - Mop🧹 Mar 22, 06:37 1
  - my friend's kid's friend group uses signal and she was still ostracized for using android. something about the way video shows up? - 🏳️‍🌈 mandy chem 🏳️‍🌈 Mar 22, 07:23
- Apple can and probably will introduce survey evidence that more people use WhatsApp across all platforms than their own Messages app for the same func - hollywood big shot Mar 22, 06:30 1
  - Yes, WhatsApp is really prevalent outside the US because so many people use other phone brands. - Marlowe Mar 22, 07:17
They seem to be arguing that it is about whether non-Apple competitors can offer the same services on iPhone. No, I can't use a third party payment - oblique Mar 22, 06:18 5
- I eagerly await hearing why Oracle Financials can’t piggyback modules on SAP systems. - Will Hunting Mar 22, 06:24 1
  - Kinda except there is the hardware/software ecosystem here that is more than just what financial software you're using -- nm - oblique Mar 22, 06:41
- where can't you use Google Pay that you can use Apple Pay for exactly the same goods/services? -- nm - hollywood big shot Mar 22, 06:23 2
  - This specific example changed in December 2023 (so yeah, they've been stifling it) -- (link) - oblique Mar 22, 06:37 1
    - but like is it Apple's fault that their customers (rightly or wrongly) are brand snobs who don't want anything to do with Google or Samsung shit? - hollywood big shot Mar 22, 06:40

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except for all of those, there are multiple cheaper competitors offering basically the same thing in the marketplace. and i'm guessing only a fraction

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