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Hamas is sharing broad outline of ceasefire agreement it claims to have accepted. -- (edited)

Posted by znufrii May 6 '24, 11:28

Sounds to me like they’re full of shit (again? still?), not least by referring to their release of hostages as a “prisoner swap”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/may/06/israel-gaza-hamas-ceasefire-updates?page=with:block-66391c538f082c8a32eab416#block-66391c538f082c8a32eab416 (www.theguardian.com)

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"The second phase mandates that Israel completely withdraw from Gaza." -- nm - MDH May 6, 11:52
to clarify, Israel hasnt accepted anything, right? -- nm - tRuMaN May 6, 11:40 1
- As far as I can tell, no. - znufrii May 6, 11:45
what's the issue with the prisoner swap term? - colin May 6, 11:34 12
- Maybe it’s a pointless semantic quibble, but I would expect Israel to take exception to hostages being referred to as “prisoners” - znufrii May 6, 11:43 11
  - I doubt that's the issue. Prisoners for hostages was part of the first cease fire and Hamas will call it whatever they want regardless of the - pmb May 6, 12:06 1
    - Fair point. -- nm - znufrii May 6, 12:09
  - hostages vs prisoners of war is kind of semantics, yes. hostages makes them sound more terroristic, for sure. -- nm - colin May 6, 11:46 8
    - As opposed to…what exactly? -- nm - znufrii May 6, 11:54 7
      - as opposed to a military that has prisoners. i'd argue that russia is terroristic as well, but we don't generally refer to POWs there as "hostages" - colin May 6, 12:01 5
        
        The difference is combatants versus civilians and the circumstances in which they were taken. -- nm - pmb May 6, 12:05 1
        
        true. -- nm - colin May 6, 12:15
        
        Russia is "relocating" children, though. -- nm - LFG May 6, 12:03 2
        
        that's kidnapping, yeah? not sure the right term there. -- nm - colin May 6, 12:14 1
        
        Pretty sure the correct term is genocide. (And I'm specifically talking about russia vs ukraine, don't apply this to any other current warcrimes …) -- nm - Beryllium May 6, 12:25
      - Guests, znu. -- nm - LFG May 6, 11:56

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