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In response to "Your top 10 songs: Please Please Please, I Had Some Help, A Bar Song (Tipsy), Espresso, Million Dollar Baby, Not Like Us, Too Sweet, Beautiful Things, Lose Control, Birds of a Feather -- (edited)" by Tim

I'm sure she'll release another version with new songs, but I'm calling it: TTPD doesn't have a real hit, Taylor is officially indestructible.

Posted by Tim (aka othertim) Jun 24 '24, 20:05

Yes, the album has spent its first 9 weeks at #1 but Fortnight was #1 for two weeks and it's already out of the top ten.

Not that Taylor Swift *needs* hits anymore, but she can release anything she wants at this point, and short of it being a hour of nothing but screeching and power tools, it'll sell millions.

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She's been ruthless in releasing the Variants of her albums with a new song or two to keep atop of the record charts -- nm - Remlik Jun 24, 20:59
Agreed on all counts. She's easily the biggest star on the planet, but doesn't have culturally relevant songs anymore. - MDH Jun 24, 20:07 20
- to be fair. you and I are out of her demo. -- nm - Remlik Jun 24, 20:57 1
  - I'm gay and in my 30s, that's the second largest demo at a Swift concert. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:58
- ah, that’s right, you think she’s mediocre. - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:24 [Backboard] 17
  - Taylor Swift without a doubt has major culturally impact. Her songs haven't had an impact in a decade. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:56 3
    - it's me. Hi. I'm the problem it's me. -- nm - Dark Callisto 🦊 Jun 25, 04:57
    - What does that mean exactly? And what are the examples of songs in the top 10 that have had an impact in the last decade? -- nm - Max Jun 24, 21:36
    - I just realized you may have meant her recent music earlier this year, too. I still disagree, but at least it’s good to see you acknowledge overall impact exists. -- (edited) - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:15 [Backboard]
  - I think the point is that she's culturally important in many ways that are far bigger than just her songs. - znufrii Jun 24, 20:38 5
    - oh yah, I got Tim’s point there. - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:46 4
      - I'm not diminishing her, I literally said she's the biggest star on the planet. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:57 3
        
        I meant diminishing her cultural impact, the cultural impact of her songs. including recent ones. maybe I don’t get what metric you’re using. — nm - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:11 2
        
        It's an attempt to compartmentalize the Taylor Swift phenomenon from a critical perspective, not diminish it, and there's one illustration of it that comes to my mind, regarding TTPD specifically -- (edited) - znufrii Jun 24, 21:22 1
        
        some people did that for sure, but a whole lot of people have no interest. - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:41
  - Yeah, I think the issue was over saturation. She’s got too much out. She won’t release anything but a Taylors version for a couple years now. -- nm - pmb Jun 24, 20:28 2
    - She only has Reputation and her debut left to release. -- nm - Tim Jun 24, 20:37 1
      - She's definitely at an inflection point after that, though. TTPD didn't leave much emotional landscape left unexplored - znufrii Jun 24, 20:44
  - i think she's talented in myriad ways but also mostly agree with Neil Tennant that she doesn't have a body of iconic hits in the same way as Madonna - hollywood big shot Jun 24, 20:27 3
    - I’d never compare her overall career as of now to madonna, because that’s just wrong with 4-5 decades and early impact in a different time; but there - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:41
    - (like is it more or less impressive that she has the cultural impact she undeniably has without being as ubiquitous on MTV as Madge was for 20 yrs?) - hollywood big shot Jun 24, 20:31 1
      - I think there are probably some very interesting parallels to explore there. -- nm - znufrii Jun 24, 20:56

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I'm sure she'll release another version with new songs, but I'm calling it: TTPD doesn't have a real hit, Taylor is officially indestructible.

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