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In response to "I'm sure she'll release another version with new songs, but I'm calling it: TTPD doesn't have a real hit, Taylor is officially indestructible." by Tim

Agreed on all counts. She's easily the biggest star on the planet, but doesn't have culturally relevant songs anymore.

Posted by MDH Jun 24 '24, 20:07

It's the same with Beyonce.

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to be fair. you and I are out of her demo. -- nm - Remlik Jun 24, 20:57 1
- I'm gay and in my 30s, that's the second largest demo at a Swift concert. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:58
ah, that’s right, you think she’s mediocre. - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:24 [Backboard] 17
- Taylor Swift without a doubt has major culturally impact. Her songs haven't had an impact in a decade. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:56 3
  - it's me. Hi. I'm the problem it's me. -- nm - Dark Callisto 🦊 Jun 25, 04:57
  - What does that mean exactly? And what are the examples of songs in the top 10 that have had an impact in the last decade? -- nm - Max Jun 24, 21:36
  - I just realized you may have meant her recent music earlier this year, too. I still disagree, but at least it’s good to see you acknowledge overall impact exists. -- (edited) - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:15 [Backboard]
- I think the point is that she's culturally important in many ways that are far bigger than just her songs. - znufrii Jun 24, 20:38 5
  - oh yah, I got Tim’s point there. - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:46 4
    - I'm not diminishing her, I literally said she's the biggest star on the planet. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:57 3
      - I meant diminishing her cultural impact, the cultural impact of her songs. including recent ones. maybe I don’t get what metric you’re using. — nm - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:11 2
        
        It's an attempt to compartmentalize the Taylor Swift phenomenon from a critical perspective, not diminish it, and there's one illustration of it that comes to my mind, regarding TTPD specifically -- (edited) - znufrii Jun 24, 21:22 1
        
        some people did that for sure, but a whole lot of people have no interest. - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:41
- Yeah, I think the issue was over saturation. She’s got too much out. She won’t release anything but a Taylors version for a couple years now. -- nm - pmb Jun 24, 20:28 2
  - She only has Reputation and her debut left to release. -- nm - Tim Jun 24, 20:37 1
    - She's definitely at an inflection point after that, though. TTPD didn't leave much emotional landscape left unexplored - znufrii Jun 24, 20:44
- i think she's talented in myriad ways but also mostly agree with Neil Tennant that she doesn't have a body of iconic hits in the same way as Madonna - hollywood big shot Jun 24, 20:27 3
  - I’d never compare her overall career as of now to madonna, because that’s just wrong with 4-5 decades and early impact in a different time; but there - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:41
  - (like is it more or less impressive that she has the cultural impact she undeniably has without being as ubiquitous on MTV as Madge was for 20 yrs?) - hollywood big shot Jun 24, 20:31 1
    - I think there are probably some very interesting parallels to explore there. -- nm - znufrii Jun 24, 20:56

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Agreed on all counts. She's easily the biggest star on the planet, but doesn't have culturally relevant songs anymore.

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