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In response to "Agreed on all counts. She's easily the biggest star on the planet, but doesn't have culturally relevant songs anymore." by MDH

ah, that’s right, you think she’s mediocre.

Posted by i.b.! (aka starrynut) Jun 24 '24, 20:24

I’m not even like a big big fan who follows all her whatevers, but not acknowledging taylor’s cultural impact is wild to me.

I think there were issues with dilution with how her latest songs were released, but she’s chosen that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I’ll just point this out again, and that’s just from my super-limited viewing. (hsxtt.com)

heh, just yesterday I mentioned to OTT at lunch that I noticed the use of their music in two different popular series I watched in recent times. (sp.)

i.b.! (aka starrynut) Feb 4 '24, 20:51

the summer I turned pretty the bear and not just background music.

In response to MDH: "She’s at the level where no one dares give it a bad “score” because she’s untouchable. The complete lack of cultural impact says it all. "

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Taylor Swift without a doubt has major culturally impact. Her songs haven't had an impact in a decade. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:56 3
- it's me. Hi. I'm the problem it's me. -- nm - Dark Callisto 🦊 Jun 25, 04:57
- What does that mean exactly? And what are the examples of songs in the top 10 that have had an impact in the last decade? -- nm - Max Jun 24, 21:36
- I just realized you may have meant her recent music earlier this year, too. I still disagree, but at least it’s good to see you acknowledge overall impact exists. -- (edited) - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:15 [Backboard]
I think the point is that she's culturally important in many ways that are far bigger than just her songs. - znufrii Jun 24, 20:38 5
- oh yah, I got Tim’s point there. - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:46 4
  - I'm not diminishing her, I literally said she's the biggest star on the planet. -- nm - MDH Jun 24, 20:57 3
    - I meant diminishing her cultural impact, the cultural impact of her songs. including recent ones. maybe I don’t get what metric you’re using. — nm - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:11 2
      - It's an attempt to compartmentalize the Taylor Swift phenomenon from a critical perspective, not diminish it, and there's one illustration of it that comes to my mind, regarding TTPD specifically -- (edited) - znufrii Jun 24, 21:22 1
        
        some people did that for sure, but a whole lot of people have no interest. - i.b.! Jun 24, 21:41
Yeah, I think the issue was over saturation. She’s got too much out. She won’t release anything but a Taylors version for a couple years now. -- nm - pmb Jun 24, 20:28 2
- She only has Reputation and her debut left to release. -- nm - Tim Jun 24, 20:37 1
  - She's definitely at an inflection point after that, though. TTPD didn't leave much emotional landscape left unexplored - znufrii Jun 24, 20:44
i think she's talented in myriad ways but also mostly agree with Neil Tennant that she doesn't have a body of iconic hits in the same way as Madonna - hollywood big shot Jun 24, 20:27 3
- I’d never compare her overall career as of now to madonna, because that’s just wrong with 4-5 decades and early impact in a different time; but there - i.b.! Jun 24, 20:41
- (like is it more or less impressive that she has the cultural impact she undeniably has without being as ubiquitous on MTV as Madge was for 20 yrs?) - hollywood big shot Jun 24, 20:31 1
  - I think there are probably some very interesting parallels to explore there. -- nm - znufrii Jun 24, 20:56

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