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Re:B2 pmb, so you get it

Posted by colin (aka colinski) Jun 28 '24, 14:40

We're talking about people that are on the fringe. I can be frustrated by the people I have to choose from, but you know the people who are talking about not voting make you and me look like an alt-righters.

At the same time though, those are people willing to get arrested, put themselves in danger, and meet violence with violence. They are highly idealistic. I get sick to death of working with them, but I also love them.

That's why I listen to people who won't vote for biden. I'm not here to say they're wrong. They make choices I don't think I could (like getting arrested). Who am I to tell them their business?

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One can have principles and still be mistaken. -- nm - Reagen Jun 28, 15:21
A mentor? Someone with more experience? I don't know. I realize it's tough. But imparting the value of progress, of compassion (not just for those -- (edited) - pmb Jun 28, 15:21 7
- I get the struggle. Like I said, I know a lot of folks like this. -- (edited) - colin Jun 28, 17:10
- My daughter has similar issues with a lot of her friends. - Inigo Jun 28, 15:54 5
  - Genocide is generally regarded as the worst crime humanity has, right? - colin Jun 28, 17:17 4
    - it's a calculation that Biden seems to be actually pulling off. which just means anyone withholding their vote has even less power when he's reelected -- (link) - hollywood big shot Jun 28, 17:27 3
      - Then they have no power now. If Biden has the same view as Trump that anybody who didn't vote for him isn't his constituent...sounds like extortion. -- nm* - colin Jun 28, 17:33 2
        
        progressives had a seat at the table when Biden first took office and got most or all of what they wanted in the stimulus package, and a good chunk - hollywood big shot Jun 28, 17:41 1
        
        I don’t understand anyone not seeing just how many very progressive things have been done, and even more proposed, under joe. unprecedented in modern - i.b.! Jun 28, 17:52
Who are you to tell people when they’re making a mistake? A good friend. -- nm - David Jun 28, 14:50 1
- Word. -- nm - Turd Ferguson Jun 28, 15:07
it’s not just their business, although ignoring personal impact from choices is unimpressive, it’s also the country and their parents, possible kids, neighbors, and the world. -- (edited) - i.b.! Jun 28, 14:46 3
- If all you have to make change is voting, then that's how it feels. But most votes mean nothing for a lot of reasons. - colin Jun 28, 16:17 2
  - it’s not just voting, but let’s start with that - like Meg’s post earlier, there’s more on. ballots than the presidential race; and while some votes - i.b.! Jun 28, 17:59 1
    - My partner is not voting for Biden, but is voting on everything else. That's true of many people not voting for Biden. -- nm - colin Jun 28, 18:30
deleting hiccup. -- nm* - i.b.! Jun 28, 14:44

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