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In response to ""it gives us no pleasure to hold ourselves to a higher standard than we chose to give Hillary and the DNC for months on end in 2016" -- nm" by mr mooch

Devil's advocate: maybe they learned a lesson from 2016 and wouldn't repeat that mistake given the chance to relive it. -- nm

Posted by ty97 Aug 13 '24, 07:57

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I agree, but I really don't want to hear Trump complaining about being hacked and how it's a foreign plot to undermine his campaign, when he openly - pmb Aug 13, 08:30
you legit think if the Biden/Harris campaign had also been hacked they wouldn't be running those materials? cause i have a bridge to sell you if so -- nm - mr mooch Aug 13, 07:59 12
- In 2016, the leaked info was published by Wikileaks. Once it was out in the public domain, there wasn't really an option to not report on it -- nm - Roger More Aug 13, 08:57 5
  - as these outlets are apparently proving today, you can choose not to report on stolen materials if you want to -- nm - mr mooch Aug 13, 09:02 3
    - how WaPo editors chose to handle the WikiLeaks info in 2016 -- (link) - mr mooch Aug 13, 09:04 [youtube] 2
      - There's a prisoner's dilemma at play. Once Wikileaks published, it was inevitable that news organisations would break and report on it rather - Roger More Aug 13, 09:17 1
        
        the prisoners appear to be hanging extra tight this time around -- nm - mr mooch Aug 13, 09:35
  - Looking it up, TheHill.com also got direct leaks from Guccifer (though I see them as Trump-leaning) -- nm - Roger More Aug 13, 09:01
- I wouldn't know that, but I definitely believe there's little good reason to publish leaked info just because an audience super wants to read it. - Max Aug 13, 08:09 5
  - i'm fine with making a newsworthiness call but none of the outlets have said the info is unreliable or not newsworthy. they're just sitting on it -- (edited) - mr mooch Aug 13, 08:12 4
    - i thought politico said in its article yesterday that they were unsure of its trustworthiness. -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 13, 08:23
    - But... so? What is it you think you're missing out on that would be material to governance? -- nm - Max Aug 13, 08:14 2
      - i don't know because they won't say what is specifically in the dossiers -- nm - mr mooch Aug 13, 08:21 1
        
        but also none of these explanations are accompanied by any kind of apologies for getting it wrong the last time -- (link) - mr mooch Aug 13, 08:24

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