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The thing about the DNC convention to me was how strong the lineup of the "new guard" of Democrats are and how exceptionally well the old guard

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Aug 23 '24, 06:05

handed off the spotlight. First they honored the elder statesmen/women then they passed along the legacy of Obama and Clinton and a vision of democracy and now crushed it with who is leading it forward today.

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even crazier, they put this together in 30 days. if Joe hadn't moved for the earlier debate, he woulda been the one giving that speech last night -- nm - mr mooch Aug 23, 07:31 1
- not to nitpick but . . . there was no macarena -- nm - mr mooch Aug 23, 07:43
Biden's stepping aside and the turn of events that followed and continue to happen still blow my mind. - con_carne Aug 23, 06:47 7
- What's striking is there is ZERO equivalence on the Republican side. The party is a complete wasteland. -- nm* - oblique Aug 23, 06:50 6
  - Nodding back to my reply to Loyola, it sure seems like a lot of potentially smart Republicans that we might be able to work with are in the woods. -- nm - con_carne Aug 23, 06:53 5
    - Related, as someone from Illinois who voted Republican in the past, I do love Adam Kinzinger. He is what Republicans should be -- nm - oblique Aug 23, 06:56 4
      - I disagree with him on virtually all policy, but I have a lot of respect for him and would always know that he is acting in good faith. That's how it - pmb Aug 23, 07:40
      - The thought of working with common sense Repubs again is giving me West Wing warm and fuzzies. - con_carne Aug 23, 07:15
      - I still remember when he ran for County Board and won when he was 20. - Dark Callisto 🦊 Aug 23, 07:05 1
        
        The perfect candidate to counter the 'weird' narrative. -- nm - Roger More Aug 23, 07:15
I think she’s a weak candidate to represent US interests on the world stage. Especially in comparison to Hillary Clinton and John Kerry of elections - Loyola Aug 23, 06:18 26
- She was barely even one of the most feared prosecutors on the West Coast! Lightweight! -- nm - David Aug 23, 07:51
- She is a fighter (compared to Trump that was just gullible.) -- nm - Spawn Aug 23, 07:10
- Possibly, but this just means she needs an exemplary Sec of State. It's pretty unusual to have a President that's strong on both domestic policy and - mara Aug 23, 06:56 1
  - OMG mayor pete for sec state. I swoon. -- nm - ☀️ mandy chem ☀️ Aug 23, 07:00
- Don't you think Trump ought to get the blame for this perceived weakness? We weakened a lot of ties around the world during his admin. -- nm - con_carne Aug 23, 06:49
- "Her main selling point seems to be that she’s not Donald Trump." Well I'm sold then! (though I think she offers quite more) -- nm - ty97 Aug 23, 06:41
- Did you listen to all of the speech? - Inigo Aug 23, 06:35 9
  - I'd also say her main theme for the U.S. is restoring the freedoms we used to have. -- nm - Inigo Aug 23, 06:38 8
    - Right. Just getting us back to par is a win at this point. -- nm - znufrii Aug 23, 06:39 7
      - agreed. The Supreme Court is a problem that needs fixing -- nm - Southwest probably Aug 23, 06:43 6
        
        ha! -- nm - prayformojo Aug 23, 07:05
        
        WOKE AIRLINES -- nm - Tim Aug 23, 07:00
        
        Supreme Court justices should have to pay for their baggage -- nm - Roger More Aug 23, 06:46
        
        Restore open seating on the Supreme Court, Southwest! -- nm* - Inigo Aug 23, 06:45
        
        Airlines getting political! -- nm - ty97 Aug 23, 06:44 1
        
        LOL - Epiphany Aug 23, 07:04
- You nailed it. For me, her main selling point is she's not TFG. That's enough. All I need. -- nm - King Of Oklahoma Aug 23, 06:30
- I'll just point out that the american electorate disagreed with you on clinton and kerry. they both lost. - ☀️ mandy chem ☀️ Aug 23, 06:27
- I think we need someone who can bolster the concept of America being the beacon, including human rights and democracy, and she's strong there. -- nm - Max Aug 23, 06:21 7
  - This is closest, from the outside. She represents a shift from an angry, fear-based approach to a much more positive and aware and hopeful one. -- nm - Andie Aug 23, 06:34 1
    - Yep. (NM) - Marlowe Aug 23, 07:30
  - Also, I would say that she seems like a different candidate than she did 4 years ago. More confident and better rounded. I think she 4 years of - pmb Aug 23, 06:26 1
    - One more thing to add. Biden accomplished a lot in 4 years. The biggest point of this term is to build on stability and show the previous 4 years - pmb Aug 23, 07:33
  - Her 25k for new home buyers is a master stroke tbf. -- nm - Loyola Aug 23, 06:25 2
    - meh. Hard to get excited about cash to buy homes that don't exist and where that money will just end up being a higher selling price to begin with - oblique Aug 23, 06:26 1
      - I agree with your im, but as a vote getter for anyone buying a house in the next few years, it’s a gold plated political play. -- nm - Loyola Aug 23, 06:35
I think it's super interesting that people have been saying that there's "no bench" in the party for like years but suddenly we have bench coming - ☀️ mandy chem ☀️ Aug 23, 06:10 6
- During Obama, there was no bench. His above it all sense of politics destroyed the state parties. Trump brought it back in 2018, 2020… - Will Hunting Aug 23, 06:28 4
  - More positively, I'd also say that Obama being elected president gave a sense that anyone could be President. - Roger More Aug 23, 06:36 3
    - I think he opened doors but from a legit “leader of the party” standpoint, he failed. The bench now is the list of people who came up in the 16-18 - Will Hunting Aug 23, 06:49 2
      - No disagreement - I'm pointing out a passive effect, and you're right to question "what did he actively do?" -- nm - Roger More Aug 23, 06:54 1
        
        Sorry, this is the internet. I’m not used to people generally agreeing. - Will Hunting Aug 23, 06:55
- Boomers, man. -- nm - Roger More Aug 23, 06:18
I month ago, if you’d have asked whether the Democratic Party was capable of this I would have laughed. - znufrii Aug 23, 06:09

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