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Wonder if Tim Kaine would have won the 2024 nomination in the alternate universe where Hillary is term limited. -- nm

Posted by Tim (aka othertim) Aug 24 '24, 15:51

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No, he's vanilla ice cream in a suit. -- nm - con_carne Aug 25, 03:58
Not much, the public gets restless under a party's admin after 8, especially 12 years, bush Sr had high job ratings but 12 years we wanted change -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 24, 19:31 3
- The question is about the nominating process, not the changing of admins -- nm - con_carne Aug 25, 04:17
- Bush Sr lost the sky-high ratings within a year due to the economy and the tax-pledge break. - Will Hunting Aug 24, 21:05 1
  - Here’s a link — from 89% in Feb 1991 to under 50 by Feb 1992 -- (link) - Will Hunting Aug 24, 21:08
Possibly. The bench might not be as strong with Hillary winning because mid-terms usually go the other way. - Will Hunting Aug 24, 16:24 10
- "Don't be calculating, be genuine." "Okay, here are my progressive ideas." "No, not like that!" -- nm - con_carne Aug 25, 04:55
- The problem with Gavin is still relevant for the actual future. He isn’t as well liked as party leaders think he is. -- nm - Qale Aug 24, 16:47 3
  - If Kamala wins in November, he’s locked down for a while. No Senate seats open, and he can’t run until 2032 … plenty of time to step on his own crank -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 24, 16:58 2
    - progressives (not the dipshit code pink crowd) wouldn’t walk across the street for his sorry ass. always sides with big biz when given the chance -- nm - mr mooch Aug 24, 17:03 1
      - (though Alex Padilla is such a non-entity as the other senator, i could see Gav orchestrating some cushy cabinet position in a Harris WH to push him - mr mooch Aug 24, 18:28
- And honestly I'd be surprised if Hillary even won re-election in 2020. -- (edited) - znufrii Aug 24, 16:38 4
  - There’s the idea that a competent administration would have contained Covid and she gets a rally around the flag bump. -- nm - Tim Aug 24, 16:45 3
    - This is what I think. But I am the biggest big hill fan ever. -- nm - amanda Aug 24, 18:44
    - I dunno. As much as some govt worldwide got that initial hit, by fall 2020 people were getting surly and she wasn’t the type of pol to mollify that. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Aug 24, 18:35 1
      - it's impossible to know what a Clinton admin would have looked like in March 2020. she prolly woulda run into the same issues as Biden v. Trump 2024 - mr mooch Aug 24, 18:46
nah -- nm - mr mooch Aug 24, 16:04

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