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In response to "Wonder if Tim Kaine would have won the 2024 nomination in the alternate universe where Hillary is term limited. -- nm" by Tim

Possibly. The bench might not be as strong with Hillary winning because mid-terms usually go the other way.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Aug 24 '24, 16:24

Assume many of the close 2018 races that spawned the governors of now would have likely gone the other way…there’s no Whitmer, Bashear, Wisconsin’s governor, maybe not Shapiro…

Gavin would run and probably be a force but he’s so…calculated, I’m not sure he’d have a chance. Pete would run, Kamala might

I don’t think Kaibe wins but it’s not as deep a potential field as you’d think.

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"Don't be calculating, be genuine." "Okay, here are my progressive ideas." "No, not like that!" -- nm - con_carne Aug 25, 04:55
The problem with Gavin is still relevant for the actual future. He isn’t as well liked as party leaders think he is. -- nm - Qale Aug 24, 16:47 3
- If Kamala wins in November, he’s locked down for a while. No Senate seats open, and he can’t run until 2032 … plenty of time to step on his own crank -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 24, 16:58 2
  - progressives (not the dipshit code pink crowd) wouldn’t walk across the street for his sorry ass. always sides with big biz when given the chance -- nm - mr mooch Aug 24, 17:03 1
    - (though Alex Padilla is such a non-entity as the other senator, i could see Gav orchestrating some cushy cabinet position in a Harris WH to push him - mr mooch Aug 24, 18:28
And honestly I'd be surprised if Hillary even won re-election in 2020. -- (edited) - znufrii Aug 24, 16:38 4
- There’s the idea that a competent administration would have contained Covid and she gets a rally around the flag bump. -- nm - Tim Aug 24, 16:45 3
  - This is what I think. But I am the biggest big hill fan ever. -- nm - amanda Aug 24, 18:44
  - I dunno. As much as some govt worldwide got that initial hit, by fall 2020 people were getting surly and she wasn’t the type of pol to mollify that. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Aug 24, 18:35 1
    - it's impossible to know what a Clinton admin would have looked like in March 2020. she prolly woulda run into the same issues as Biden v. Trump 2024 - mr mooch Aug 24, 18:46

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Possibly. The bench might not be as strong with Hillary winning because mid-terms usually go the other way.

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