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Joseph Gordon Levitt proves yet again that he is brilliant -- (link)

Posted by crash davis 😺 (aka crash davis) Sep 12 '24, 12:39

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/11/opinion/trump-harris-debate-joseph-gordon-levitt.html (www.nytimes.com)

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Seriously, how did we get to this place? -- nm - David Sep 12, 12:51 30
- I was going to write a long post about various turning points, but I'm ultimately just going to go with 2 words. Social. Media. - pmb Sep 12, 14:35 2
  - I'll add that there are clearly other touchpoints that were significant, but the internet (and specifically social media) were the gasoline on the - pmb Sep 12, 14:41 1
    - It's 100% the accelerant of the decline. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Sep 12, 15:10
- We lost the Fairness Doctrine, and people are being brainwashed. -- nm - mara Sep 12, 14:24
- A group of people with all the national power trusted one group to give them economic power, while in fact ceding all authority - Will Hunting Sep 12, 13:26 3
  - Obama was right in 2008 after all (ref. the guardian) - rollo Sep 12, 13:37 2
    - Jimmy Carter was the last president to actually be honest with the American public about there being no easy fixes to hard problems and they fired him - mr mooch Sep 12, 13:51
    - The dumb of blaming burger flippers for 15/hr while you let your bosses bone you over in a more vital job for 12 is unreal. - Will Hunting Sep 12, 13:49
- well, see first they invented computers. and slowly for time they improved. then someone thought "can we connect them", and slowly over time it - tRuMaN Sep 12, 13:20 1
  - I believe the vast majority of us have ST as the browser Home Page. -- nm* - mud Sep 12, 13:29
- Society bonds have eroded over time (think church, service clubs, other community-oriented association); Watergate/Vietnam-era shift in... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 12, 13:16 11
  - Correct. We also don't have military service and wars to help bridge political aisles. - Strongbad Sep 12, 14:43 1
    - We don't have the jerrymandering up here and it's getting us some extremists as well. (But yes, that's a good one.) -- nm* - Name Withheld By Request Sep 12, 15:08
  - spot on. add/underline the erosion of institutions due to an unwillingness or inability to hold corruption accountable -- nm - rollo Sep 12, 13:22 4
    - Yeah, I think that's a solid add. It matters on how much faith that "the system will work" there is. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Sep 12, 13:25 3
      - ramping income inequality + removal/undermining of/corruption of the social safety net -- nm - rollo Sep 12, 13:30 2
        
        This one I struggle with a bit more. There are demonstrably fewer*[Edit] people in poverty (at least in North America) today than fifty years ago. -- (edited) - Name Withheld By Request Sep 12, 13:43 1
        
        I think the political impact is that the left behind are seeking both reasons why and retribution, making them vulnerable to exploitation - rollo Sep 12, 13:58
  - Newspaper and broadcast news were run in the public interest and neutral, "comments" aka letters to editor where curated -- nm - zeitgeist Sep 12, 13:20 3
    - Ummm... no. - Strongbad Sep 12, 14:47 1
      - No, I always thought that the town paper was very conservative -- nm - zeitgeist Sep 12, 15:06
    - I'm less willing to assign this too much responsibility honestly, because media has always been business, not public interest. It got better.... - Name Withheld By Request Sep 12, 13:23
- We were always like this. 100 years ago we were burning black communities across the nation, forcibly expelling Chinese, *this* close to joining WW2 -- nm - On Hitlers side. Seriously Sep 12, 13:08 1
  - Hitler took inspiration from Henry Ford's virulent antisemitism and copied Alabamas segregation laws to exclude jews. It was US all along -- nm - zeitgeist Sep 12, 13:25
- Booth shot Lincoln and then Johnson killed Reconstruction -- nm - mr mooch Sep 12, 12:54 3
  - then Woodrow promoted Birth of a Nation. -- nm - mud Sep 12, 12:56 2
    - then the dinosaurs came, but they grew too big and fat and turned into oil and then the arabs came and they bought mercedes benzs -- nm - Jovian Sep 12, 13:44 1
      - And then Vecepia won. -- nm - Strongbad Sep 12, 15:06
- It turns out a shockingly large amount of the country is still big mad that we elected a black guy in 2008. -- nm - Tim Sep 12, 12:53
- (Americans are racist and they've accepted fascism as a path forward to embrace it) -- nm - Jovian Sep 12, 12:53
~ Will you accept the results, if you don't happen to win / Or will you be whining and crying and trying to throw out the votes again ~ -- nm - Max Sep 12, 12:45

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