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In response to "apropos of nothing/everything: I still can't believe this election is so close. -- nm" by ty97

I'm really unclear on whether it really is or it's just the polling. There are just so many unknown factors involved as well. Like all the efforts to

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Sep 13 '24, 13:06

interfere with voting in relevant states (ID laws, proof of citizenship to register, etc.) and not to mention the dangers of MAGAfied election boards in key states and districts. I'm also not sure if we're just in our own bubble about how great she's doing. But it does feel like it's not as close as we're being told. I really think she will have a larger popular vote margin than Biden, but the electoral college makes it all unclear.

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If the state level polling in places like WI/MI is off the way it was in 2016/2020 then it's a huge problem for Dems. Of course, no way to know.... - ty97 Sep 13, 13:15 4
- I mean, we see the rallies, right? it's hard not to think that if the R ticket were as pop as polls say that the rallies would be bangers. -- nm - ☀️ mandy chem ☀️ Sep 13, 13:16 3
  - Right. The revival atmopheres have been replaced by a kind of sadness and self-pity. -- nm - David Sep 13, 13:28
  - Such a small % of voters go to any rallies, it's a non-indicator to me. - ty97 Sep 13, 13:17 1
    - It is a bit of a gauge of enthusiasm. But hard to draw concrete info from it. -- nm - pmb Sep 13, 13:20
it's important to remember she's only been a candidate for about 50 days and trying to rebuild Obama/Hillary/Biden's coalition from 0mph - mr mooch Sep 13, 13:13 7
- You think just 80%? I feel like they came flocking back 10 minutes after the announcement and grew from there. -- nm - pmb Sep 13, 13:21 5
  - the youth vote is apparently still lagging by double digits -- nm - mr mooch Sep 13, 13:25 4
    - I am surprised. I know the Palestinian issues continue to be a problem (though I remain boggled at the idea that Trump would be better for them). - pmb Sep 13, 13:28 3
      - "How could it be worse?" To which I say they have terrible imaginations. - Reagen Sep 13, 13:45 1
        
        He'd have help from any number of other world leaders in chucking Netanyahu into the volcano. -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 13, 14:00
      - The guy who said "they (Israel) should just finish it"? That guy? Is better for Palestinians? -- nm - zeitgeist Sep 13, 13:32
- every critical moment she had to execute so far (rollout, VP, DNC, debate) she's done it flawlessly. he's done nothing to change that trajectory -- nm - mr mooch Sep 13, 13:18

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I'm really unclear on whether it really is or it's just the polling. There are just so many unknown factors involved as well. Like all the efforts to

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