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More Southwest Airlines: Reducing Hawaii inter-island flying by 20% (they've been losing lots of money on that) -- nm

Posted by ty97 Sep 26 '24, 12:06

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People can just swim from Island to Island, anyway. -- nm - Spawn Sep 26, 13:09 1
- While FH understood that we couldn't drive it, she did wonder why there wasn't a ferry -- nm - JD Sep 26, 13:47
And a note from me, about a probably bad decision by Southwest post-merger with Airtran - ty97 Sep 26, 12:44
Southwest *claims* that ATL hub was losing money when they bought Airtran and that they fixed that, but it hasn't recovered post-COVID. - ty97 Sep 26, 12:29 1
- I will note (read someplace yesterday I think): Airtran had 17% market share at ATL. Southwest as 10% share today, before the reductions. -- (edited) - ty97 Sep 26, 12:31
It's like they're just running their divisional reports for the first time. "You're losing HOW much?" -- nm - David Sep 26, 12:26
They were trying to get market share from Hawaiian, yes? Seems like a poor financial bet. How lucrative can that market be? -- nm - Mop🧹 Sep 26, 12:22 1
- Primarily, I think they are just trying to serve Hawaii, as it's one of the most demanded destinations of any loyal flyer base in the US. -- (edited) - ty97 Sep 26, 12:28
Here's the full Twitter thread I've been pulling from, by an aviation reporter. If anyone is so inclined for more. -- (link) - ty97 Sep 26, 12:21
Stock up 7% -- nm - Pippy aka Couch Therapist Sep 26, 12:18
bastards -- nm - decline Sep 26, 12:16
Southwest suggesting that the second partner to add next year will serve Asia. -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:16
Extra legroom seats will be in two different sections on planes. Plan to retrofit 50-100 planes a year from 2025. No blocked middle seat option. -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:10
Wanna Getta Away (WGA) fares will not include advance seat assigned. WGA+ fares will -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:09 2
- Dynamic pricing for seats -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:11 1
  - why not just let folks fight for them at the gate -- nm - mr mooch Sep 26, 12:15
They tested 'Bags DON'T Fly Free' and didn't like the value proposition. -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:08 1
- "Take a vacation - leave your old bag at home." -- nm* - Ohana Air Sep 26, 12:40
Initially, international partner(s?) will be able to book through to Southwest. After assigned seating starts, other way bookable too -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:08
"Reaching new Customers through channel expansion." Google Flights, Kayak, and (soon) Skyscanner -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:07 6
- that was only the mildest barrier of entry to flying Southwest. if you wanted a Southwest ticket, you generally bought it -- nm - mr mooch Sep 26, 12:08 4
  - I've of a mixed mind on this one. I think there ARE plenty of people that went direct to southwest.com and booked out of habit and because.... - ty97 Sep 26, 12:18 3
    - at least for us best coasters, adding the redeye flights will sell infinitely more tix than just putting the fares up on aggregator sites -- nm - mr mooch Sep 26, 12:20 2
      - The redeyes are definitely helpful, and they've added some redeyes to Hawaii that are designed for eastbound connections. - ty97 Sep 26, 12:22 1
        
        To the IM: 🖕 -- nm - JD Sep 26, 13:51
- Reducing turn times to fly more flights with same planes -- nm - ty97 Sep 26, 12:07

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