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FWIW, I think "the economy is bad" is a set "fact" in many people's mind for this election. The message to persuadable voters now is Trump is worse. - Dano Oct 23, 09:49 11
- see the article below... - colin Oct 23, 10:04 9
  - the US is the best recovering western economy from the pandemic and it's not even close. -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 10:05 8
    - yes.. because Trump pushed for the injection of cash into the economy. - colin Oct 23, 10:08 7
      - The GOP voted against it and only wanted it to be $200. -- nm - . Oct 23, 10:18
      - The third round of economic stimulus was under Biden. - Inigo Oct 23, 10:16
      - Nancy Pelosi drove the stimulus train, Trump was just craven enough to think it could win him a second term -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 10:11 4
        
        Yep. Trump is fine throwing around money to make people love him, but the party isn't. It was the democrats that provided the votes. -- nm - pmb Oct 23, 10:19
        
        His signature was on all those checks. He thought that would do it. -- nm - . Oct 23, 10:19
        
        i know the facts. i'm giving you the view of someone who is arguing that Trump would be good for them individually. - colin Oct 23, 10:19 1
        
        But that's not being offered. I get it, but it's really not paying attention to what is going on. And let's not forget that Biden tried to - pmb Oct 23, 10:26
- I largely agree, but the frustrating part is that those same people generally prefer Harris' policies. Recent polling shows them largely in a dead - pmb Oct 23, 09:54
DeAndre Hopkins to Kansas City for a conditional 4th round pick all but done -- nm - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 09:43
This article is fascinating - written by the brother of a friend, trying to convince other conservatives to vote for Harris. -- (link) - colin Oct 23, 09:40
remarkable Georgian #s -- (pic) - mud Oct 23, 09:40 [Attachment] 1
- I read somewhere that the only reason those 20 were caught was because they showed up for jury duty and wanted to get out of it. -- nm - Strongbad Oct 23, 09:45
Don’t blame me. I voted for Kamala. -- nm - David Oct 23, 09:40
OMG. trump is here on saturday. ewwwww. -- nm - ☀️ amandachem ☀️ Oct 23, 09:34
Here is a bracelet I made for my pollworkers. -- (pic) - amanda Oct 23, 09:20 [Attachment] 8
- I like how I first misread it as LOVE LOVE LOVE -- nm - Max Oct 23, 10:00
- I want to work at your polling place! -- nm - Dano Oct 23, 09:50
- That’s amazing -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 09:26
- I *love* that you did that -- nm - Andie Oct 23, 09:22
- aww, that's fantastic. -- nm - colin Oct 23, 09:22 3
  - I'm making a couple of dozen. if you can think of anything else I should write, LMK. so far I have this, FREE AND FAIR, EVERY VOTE COUNTS and - ☀️ amandachem ☀️ Oct 23, 09:32 2
    - WELUVPROJECT2025 -- nm - decline Oct 23, 09:37
    - for my coworker who is brazilian but about to be a citizen I am making FUTURE VOTER. -- nm - ☀️ amandachem ☀️ Oct 23, 09:33
Their MLB cameos led to World Series rings. Are they happy? Well, it’s complicated. by Sam Blum and C. Trent Rosecrans -- (edited) - JD Oct 23, 09:14
Hmmm. Is it the new chrome or something berry did that broke my autocollapse script for ST? -- nm - oblique Oct 23, 09:11 4
- I haven't deployed any code updates for a while -- nm - Beryllium Oct 23, 09:34 2
  - I'm growing to hate Manifest V3 -- nm - oblique Oct 23, 09:35 1
    - A browser that disallows adblocking is not worthy of my time. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 23, 09:45
- New chrome. -- (link) - oblique Oct 23, 09:23
Bxxx (I hate myself now) -- (edited) - mud Oct 23, 08:49 5
- I did the same thing, but spoils - Beryllium Oct 23, 09:33
- spoiler - rollo Oct 23, 09:12 3
  - spoiler - mud Oct 23, 09:16 2
    - I agree, but I forgive you anyway -- nm - rollo Oct 23, 09:18 1
      - thx (I want to suspend myself from play for 2 weeks) -- nm - mud Oct 23, 09:19
Annual pass fares for Orlanda’s Disney World park were raised by 3%-7% last night -- (link) - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 08:34 2
- sorry, voting for Trump now -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 09:03
- corporate greed -- nm - decline Oct 23, 09:01
Roman Polanski's lawsuit over the 1973 rape of a minor settled out of court -- (link) - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 08:34 5
- Is this the case he ran away from or a new one? -- nm - Will Hunting Oct 23, 08:37 4
  - He fled a criminal prosecution. -- nm - Mop🧹 Oct 23, 09:08 1
    - seems like a new accusation though -- nm* - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 09:09
  - new, original one he fled from was in 1977 -- nm* - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 08:39 1
    - Oh, cool. And we can’t get him extradited why? -- nm - Will Hunting Oct 23, 08:47
Any advice on our vaccination quandary for Mac? - prayformojo Oct 23, 08:29 57
- Student health services doesn't cover it? That sounds... unlikely. -- nm - Mop🧹 Oct 23, 09:11 1
  - there is not student health service, really -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:27
- Tim, here's what GoodRx has coupons for. Are all these injections? Is any better than the others? -- (link) - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:10 2
  - They’re all the same, just different manufacturers. - Tim Oct 23, 09:22 1
    - thank you! -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:22
- Also, does this mean that if she needs any medical treatment down there, you're screwed because out of network? - Dano Oct 23, 09:02 4
  - ish? KP has said they'll cover urgent care-type stuff, but now I'm not so sure. And we're in open enrollment now and Heather's going to talk to our HR - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:08 3
    - My Kaiser covers out of network emergency services with a co-pay (I think) of $250. - Meg Oct 23, 09:47 2
      - I hope that one of the plans available through work has this -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:55 1
        
        OTOH, mine is a Medicare Advantage plan so Medicare (or you) are paying for it all :/ -- nm - Meg Oct 23, 10:09
- Thanks for all the suggestions. I hadn't thought of GoodRx - it looks like they have a coupon for $82 for covid vax. -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:02 3
  - oooh, thankx -- nm - zeitgeist Oct 23, 11:35
  - Insurance companies hate SlackerRx but they can't stop us from saving people money. -- nm - Max Oct 23, 09:04 1
    - Yeah! and $31.64 for flu vax (Fluzone) -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:07
- Wait the 3 weeks -- nm - decline Oct 23, 08:58
- I would also say, if it's gonna be three weeks, I'd be okay waiting. (but you all did remind me to schedule mine for this Friday. Thanks for that) -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:55
- Does the school have a health center that potentially covers it, or offers it lower cost? - ty97 Oct 23, 08:51 2
  - That’s actually surprising to me that pfm suggested Mac’s school didn’t. -- nm - Tim Oct 23, 08:53 1
    - yeah, that's one strange hole in SCAD's student services -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 09:02
- They were free for me through CVS. so weird. -- nm - Remlik Oct 23, 08:45 3
  - Did you have to provide your insurance? -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 08:47 2
    - If Remlik had previously filled prescriptions there, we had it on file and they covered it. -- nm - Tim Oct 23, 08:48 1
      - that has to be it. Because I do have prescriptions there -- nm - Remlik Oct 23, 09:08
- Your prescription insurance doesn’t cover at the pharmacy, or is it because Mac’s out of network being so far away? - Tim Oct 23, 08:44 1
  - both, I think, but definitely the latter -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 08:46
- I would honestly wait until she gets home unless she is super stressed about it. if it's stressing her out, the expense is worth it. - ☀️ amandachem ☀️ Oct 23, 08:42 2
  - Maybe pay for the lesser cost Flu shot, see if local county immunization programs offer COVID for free/less -- (link) - Max Oct 23, 08:51
  - this -- nm - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 08:42
- I didn't realize she was at SCAD. Is she enjoying it? -- nm - Strongbad Oct 23, 08:40
- My receipt from Harris Teeter seems to indicate they were $15 each but charged $0, even though I didn't provide an insurer when I made the appt - Max Oct 23, 08:38
- Try Costco, you don't have to be a member to use pharmacy, they often have better prices. - colin Oct 23, 08:37
- i wish i had advice, but it's so wild to me that vaxes aren't just free. -- nm - Andie Oct 23, 08:32 25
  - geez no kidding -- nm - mud Oct 23, 08:57
  - srsly. my mom was here when she was due for one and they just gave it to her free, no questions asked. tourist, didn’t check insurance or anything. - mafic Oct 23, 08:54 2
    - flu and covid shots are like that here too. if you have a provincial health care card, they take and i assume bill the province, but they are very - Andie Oct 23, 09:08
    - That’s socialism! -- nm - Tim Oct 23, 08:56
  - yeah, this came as a real surprise -- nm - prayformojo Oct 23, 08:46
  - Until it became a commercial product last year, the Covid shot was paid for by the government for the uninsured. -- nm - Tim Oct 23, 08:45
  - The federal government covered the vaccine until this year. Now that has stopped. CVS quotes $201.99 price for the COVID vaccine. - ty97 Oct 23, 08:45 9
    - Ugh. -- nm - Strongbad Oct 23, 08:46 8
      - It's rather gross (on us as a society) -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:47 7
        
        Was it really so long ago that health insurance plans used to cover anything preventative at 100%? - Strongbad Oct 23, 08:50 6
        
        Preventative care is still required to be covered 100%, but only in-network. -- (link) - znufrii Oct 23, 08:54
        
        I think my plan still does, though that may be in-network only -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:50 4
        
        Stupid Cigna told us - Strongbad Oct 23, 08:53 3
        
        I don't even get to choose. My employer works with CVS. -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:56 2
        
        (I have come to dislike CVS, though I do like one employee of the company) -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:57 1
        
        :) -- nm - Tim Oct 23, 08:57
  - California is picking up the tab for anyone who doesn't have coverage -- (link) - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:38
  - THIS -- nm - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 08:35
  - I kind of didn't know they weren't. I just make my appointment at Walgreens and they don't charge me, but I assume they charge my insurance. The Osco - pmb Oct 23, 08:34 6
    - I have stupid insurance that only allows vaccines in New Jersey. I tried to get them at my local CVS in PA and it would have cost a couple hundred - decline Oct 23, 08:59 3
      - Do you work for the state? I’ve run into this exact issue in NY. - Tim Oct 23, 09:03 2
        
        nope. Horizon BC/BS of NJ has some archaic rule about it -- nm - decline Oct 23, 09:05 1
        
        Yeah, that’s the plan. -- nm - Tim Oct 23, 09:07
    - free* with most insurances says the fine print. -- nm - Tim Oct 23, 08:44
    - mine are free at CVS. they still have my penn state insurance and I've never paid a dime. -- nm - ☀️ amandachem ☀️ Oct 23, 08:41
20 year old voter shocked to discover buying a car can be expensive -- (link) - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:18 37
- (US economy is not actually "in the gutter" ftr) -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:27 26
  - At an individual level though, it is. Homelessness is rising, house prices are rising, used cars are more expensive than ever. Pay is not keeping up. - colin Oct 23, 08:32 20
    - That's really not true. It's a "vibe" thing. As pixie says, wages are outpacing inflation, but that doesn't stop people from reacting to higher - pmb Oct 23, 08:37 14
      - Affordability crisis. Insurance, healthcare, childcare, education, housing, etc are all squeezing people hard so inflation has an outsized impact on - oblique Oct 23, 09:08 3
        
        But again, for the most part wage increases are outpacing inflation (which includes all of these elements). People aren't seeing as much benefit from - pmb Oct 23, 09:23 2
        
        Prices went up under his administration because of his tariffs back then and we lost jobs as a result. - . Oct 23, 10:16 1
        
        He's saying much higher tariffs and notwithstanding all economists saying it will blow up inflation, people just ignore the realities. -- nm - pmb Oct 23, 10:32
      - I should add, that doesn't mean that individual people aren't seeing the benefits, but there's never going to be a system that fixes everything - pmb Oct 23, 08:40 9
        
        let me rephrase then - i think it's disgusting to praise an economy, political party, or country for a "good economy" when they are allowing people - colin Oct 23, 09:18 7
        
        I get it. I am not one who thinks all problems can be solved, at least not immediately and not without failures (not even by throwing money at them). - pmb Oct 23, 09:51
        
        It’s a good economy. Nobody has ever invented one that is perfect for everyone. -- nm - David Oct 23, 09:40 5
        
        don't let perfect be the enemy of good? - colin Oct 23, 09:45 4
        
        I don't know that I have a single motto I live by, but if I had one, that would be it. - pmb Oct 23, 10:17
        
        It's a kind of nihilism to dismiss anyone by nitpicking that they haven't addressed impossible things beyond their control. - David Oct 23, 10:05 2
        
        i think you're giving the government a pass by saying those things are out of their control. - colin Oct 23, 10:15 1
        
        Which candidate wants to execute drug dealers? Yes, there are a whole host of issues that both sides contribute to, but one is still better than the - pmb Oct 23, 10:31
        
        I think it's more than a vibe thing. People are looking at the quality of life they expect to have vs the quality of life their parents and - Roger More Oct 23, 09:01
    - wages have been outpacing inflation since the pandemic -- (link) - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:34 4
      - They are not outpacing the cost of housing. -- nm - colin Oct 23, 08:39 3
        
        That is part of the inflation calculator. And the pace of increase has slowed dramatically. The economy isn't only (or even mostly) driven by policy - pmb Oct 23, 08:45 2
        
        Problem isn’t a 12-month thing. - Will Hunting Oct 23, 08:51 1
        
        It was very dependent on where you live and very much caused by the pandemic. It wasn't Biden policy vs. Trump policy that made the difference. - pmb Oct 23, 09:17
  - It's the vibes election moochy -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:28 4
    - It really is for a good number of people. -- nm - Krusty Oct 23, 08:38 3
      - It's been a vibes election since Obama beat McCain. -- nm - Strongbad Oct 23, 08:41 1
        
        When you get down to it, you can say every election is vibey. Not many voters go and crunch numbers or run checklists to decide - Roger More Oct 23, 09:53
      - it's just 2016 Economic Anxiety with a new wrapper -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:39
- I'd be curious (not sarcastically) to understand which of Trump's policies she thinks would help with this. -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:26 5
  - fasctistic magic! -- nm - Jovian Oct 23, 08:34
  - she has no idea. She heard him say "i will make things affordable, the Dems have made life impossible" and it ended there. (also, she's 20) -- nm - Andie Oct 23, 08:28 1
    - quite possible! -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:29
  - 2000% tariffs, obvs -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:27 1
    - oh, and Drill Baby Drill -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:35
- cavier prices are out of control! -- nm - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 08:21 1
  - "New Scientist Magazine reported this week that in the future, cars could be powered by hazel nuts." - Weekend Update, Dec. 2000 Oct 23, 08:28
- Wait until she realizes how much houses cost. -- nm - znufrii Oct 23, 08:19 1
  - Seriously, I'm 49, have been my of job 24.8 years, and stressed about the price of houses. -- nm - ty97 Oct 23, 08:28
On this day in 2001, Apple introduced the 1st Generation iPod. -- (pic) - budice Oct 23, 08:08 [Attachment] 4
- Pretty remarkable how much the handheld tech changed in just five years after that - is there any hardware evolving that fast these days? -- nm - Max Oct 23, 08:42
- a month after 9/11 -- nm - mr mooch Oct 23, 08:14
- I *still* have my iPod Shuffle. -- (link) - Andie Oct 23, 08:09 1
  - We probably have a few as well. They were great one-job devices. -- nm - David Oct 23, 08:11
Bank of Canada cuts interest rates by 50 basis-points to 3.75%; is twice the size of previous cut -- (link) - Beaker 🍺 Oct 23, 08:04
Backyard Ultra livestream. It's just Belgium left. Four just went out for Yard 100. -- (link) - Dano Oct 23, 08:00 [youtube] 8
- yay Phil Gore. he totes could’ve done more. -- nm - mafic Oct 23, 08:55
- i am always fascinated by this race and so glad ST introduced. I find the whole thing wild and kind of unbelievable. -- nm - Andie Oct 23, 08:06 3
  - I just explained the race to my cube-mate…she looked at me with a “why the fuck would anyone do that?” face. She’s a retired Marine. -- nm - Will Hunting Oct 23, 08:33
  - Same. Last year I got a bunch of people in my firm into it as well. -- nm - pmb Oct 23, 08:32
  - This year is the team championship. Belgium has clinched - they're leading & the only country still running. The individual world record is in play. -- nm - Dano Oct 23, 08:17
- That stream ended apparently. Don't see the new stream yet. -- nm - Dano Oct 23, 08:04 2
  - Here's the new stream. -- (link) - Dano Oct 23, 08:15 [youtube]
  - They only paid for the 100hour option because 101 hours is crazy. -- nm - Will Hunting Oct 23, 08:14
Family dish is either biscuits and sausage gravy, or peach chicken. -- nm - landbeck Oct 23, 08:00 1
- It's have to be rouladen, or fresh baked lemon meringue pie. - . Oct 23, 10:11
Word. -- nm - Turd Ferguson Oct 23, 07:57 4
- Prestidigitation -- nm - znufrii Oct 23, 08:08 1
  - I have a fridge magnet that says this. I stole it from a Starbucks when they made Akeelah and the Bee. -- nm - mafic Oct 23, 08:57
- Confab -- nm - Trending Oct 23, 08:03 1
  - Meetup -- nm - ReluctantCynic Oct 23, 08:13

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