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In response to "I saw something today about how after W's 2nd win, Obama was no where near ANYone's radar as a possible candidate. So that tracks. -- nm" by Turd Ferguson

Meh…that’s not accurate. He was a future Presidential candidate from the moment he gave that DNC speech. Just no one expected 2008.

They were thinking Hillary 2008-12 and then him in 2016

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