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Yep: 'Trump team discussing plan to adjourn both House of Congress under Article II section 3 of the Constitution and then recess appoint the cabinet' -- nm*

Posted by Jovian (aka Jovian) Nov 13 '24, 13:54

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He can't by fiat. House and Senate have to agree to it. -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 14:29 27
- stop ruining the story with facts. -- nm - mafic Nov 13, 16:41
- Which Republican Members of the House or Senate do we expect to oppose this plan? This is MAGA-inspired government efficiency at its finest after all. -- (edited) - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 14:36 24
  - Does the filibuster apply to appointments? -- nm - pmb Nov 13, 15:33 2
    - I think so? - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:50 1
      - Dems eliminated the filibuster for non-SCOTUS appointments first (GOP was just blocking all Obama nominees. Courts were begging for approvals because - pmb Nov 13, 15:57
  - To your IM - I think they should definitely oppose the people that need opposing. Force every single member of the GOP to sign off on these people... - Turd Ferguson Nov 13, 15:02 1
    - I (mostly and almost entirely) agree. Through a monkeywrench into anything and everything to slow down the MAGA crowd and the Trump Administration. - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:05
  - It just plainly doesn't say what people are saying it does. -- (link) - Reagen Nov 13, 14:39 [BS] 17
    - Yes. I know that. - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:04 3
      - Plainly, yes, because if it comes to a matter of rules, it means they don't want to do what he wants to. If they want what he wants, they just do it. -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 15:08 2
        
        And I suspect that a majority of Republicans in both chambers want this. - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:47 1
        
        OK. That isn't enough. -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 15:53
    - dumb question - if they control both Houses what's not to say they don't want it. - Mel Profit Nov 13, 14:53 12
      - When repubs ask questions it's like monkeys screaming and throwing feces, demos ask questions like prosecutors nailing a weasel. -- nm - zeitgeist Nov 13, 16:18
      - If they want to approve his picks, then they approve them. No song and dance needed. If they don't, he can't just wave his hand and adjourn them. - Reagen Nov 13, 14:55 10
        
        They may prefer recess appointments to actively approving them, because the approval process involves hearings in which Dems can ask embarrassing questions. -- nm* - mara Nov 13, 15:18
        
        Thanks. Makes sense. Part of me thinks he wants to go the other route just because it would make for a "good show". -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 13, 14:56 8
        
        Like, is he daring shit to happen? Yeah, of course. And within the executive, he's gonna run rampant. But the legislative still like its power. -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 15:02 7
        
        I just don't think you can lose sight of the fact that he doesn't care about the rules and all of his "counsel" will find "interpretations" to - pmb Nov 13, 15:32 2
        
        He's going to try stuff, absolutely. He's trying to bluff people, and he's going to do it badly, like everything else he does. - Reagen Nov 13, 15:48 1
        
        And I'm just saying he managed to get what he wanted on many things and he's dismantling the guardrails to make it easier. - pmb Nov 13, 15:59
        
        They seem to like his power more. - Mel Profit Nov 13, 15:10 3
        
        I saw someone say that the Senate is 100% of a bunch of people that think *they* should be President - Reagen Nov 13, 15:12 2
        
        I'd forgotten that quote and it's true...it's gotta be insulting to look at that skidmark as VP. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 13, 15:16 1
        
        also, if somehow you get these recess appointments in, eventually Congress has to come back, at which point no more recess appointment. - Reagen Nov 13, 16:26
  - The ones that hate Gaetz? -- nm - Strongbad Nov 13, 14:37
- (also the source on this is a known bullshitter) -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 14:30
What does that mean? Appointing these people without congressional approval? nm - Turd Ferguson Nov 13, 14:01 1
- yes. And no, I don't think rank and file Republicans (the few of them that their are) expected him to name these people to these critical positions. -- nm - Jovian Nov 13, 14:05
I'm not sure why I didn't see this going sideways in a matter of weeks. - Mel Profit Nov 13, 13:57 6
- It's been eight days. -- nm - amanda Nov 13, 15:48
- The reason we have a cumbersome Bureaucracy is because so many will try to game the system and steal as much as they can, look at pandemic relief.. - zeitgeist Nov 13, 14:37
- Just wait until Tulsi Gabbard is nominated for Director of National Intelligence. - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 14:08
- The way I have described it to others - Strongbad Nov 13, 14:04 2
  - I'm not convinced that the constitution is as big a hurdle as you think it is. - pmb Nov 13, 15:38
  - It was proposed that was why they liked aholes like MTG, Boebert and Gaetz was their batshit made the real shit seem more moderate -- nm - zeitgeist Nov 13, 14:26

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