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In response to "Yep: 'Trump team discussing plan to adjourn both House of Congress under Article II section 3 of the Constitution and then recess appoint the cabinet' -- nm*" by Jovian

He can't by fiat. House and Senate have to agree to it. -- nm

Posted by Reagen Nov 13 '24, 14:29

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stop ruining the story with facts. -- nm - mafic Nov 13, 16:41
Which Republican Members of the House or Senate do we expect to oppose this plan? This is MAGA-inspired government efficiency at its finest after all. -- (edited) - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 14:36 24
- Does the filibuster apply to appointments? -- nm - pmb Nov 13, 15:33 2
  - I think so? - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:50 1
    - Dems eliminated the filibuster for non-SCOTUS appointments first (GOP was just blocking all Obama nominees. Courts were begging for approvals because - pmb Nov 13, 15:57
- To your IM - I think they should definitely oppose the people that need opposing. Force every single member of the GOP to sign off on these people... - Turd Ferguson Nov 13, 15:02 1
  - I (mostly and almost entirely) agree. Through a monkeywrench into anything and everything to slow down the MAGA crowd and the Trump Administration. - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:05
- It just plainly doesn't say what people are saying it does. -- (link) - Reagen Nov 13, 14:39 [BS] 17
  - Yes. I know that. - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:04 3
    - Plainly, yes, because if it comes to a matter of rules, it means they don't want to do what he wants to. If they want what he wants, they just do it. -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 15:08 2
      - And I suspect that a majority of Republicans in both chambers want this. - ReluctantCynic Nov 13, 15:47 1
        
        OK. That isn't enough. -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 15:53
  - dumb question - if they control both Houses what's not to say they don't want it. - Mel Profit Nov 13, 14:53 12
    - When repubs ask questions it's like monkeys screaming and throwing feces, demos ask questions like prosecutors nailing a weasel. -- nm - zeitgeist Nov 13, 16:18
    - If they want to approve his picks, then they approve them. No song and dance needed. If they don't, he can't just wave his hand and adjourn them. - Reagen Nov 13, 14:55 10
      - They may prefer recess appointments to actively approving them, because the approval process involves hearings in which Dems can ask embarrassing questions. -- nm* - mara Nov 13, 15:18
      - Thanks. Makes sense. Part of me thinks he wants to go the other route just because it would make for a "good show". -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 13, 14:56 8
        
        Like, is he daring shit to happen? Yeah, of course. And within the executive, he's gonna run rampant. But the legislative still like its power. -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 15:02 7
        
        I just don't think you can lose sight of the fact that he doesn't care about the rules and all of his "counsel" will find "interpretations" to - pmb Nov 13, 15:32 2
        
        He's going to try stuff, absolutely. He's trying to bluff people, and he's going to do it badly, like everything else he does. - Reagen Nov 13, 15:48 1
        
        And I'm just saying he managed to get what he wanted on many things and he's dismantling the guardrails to make it easier. - pmb Nov 13, 15:59
        
        They seem to like his power more. - Mel Profit Nov 13, 15:10 3
        
        I saw someone say that the Senate is 100% of a bunch of people that think *they* should be President - Reagen Nov 13, 15:12 2
        
        I'd forgotten that quote and it's true...it's gotta be insulting to look at that skidmark as VP. -- nm - Mel Profit Nov 13, 15:16 1
        
        also, if somehow you get these recess appointments in, eventually Congress has to come back, at which point no more recess appointment. - Reagen Nov 13, 16:26
- The ones that hate Gaetz? -- nm - Strongbad Nov 13, 14:37
(also the source on this is a known bullshitter) -- nm - Reagen Nov 13, 14:30

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