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In response to "the Senate voted 60-37 to approve the Cash For Clunkers extension -- nm" by Stewie

Debt for Grand kids -- nm

Posted by Redmond (aka REDMOND) Aug 6 '09, 18:31

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if it weren't taken from monies that had already been appropriated as part of the stimulus package. -- nm - znufrii Aug 6, 19:46 2
- Dude, that's debt too. It's all debt. Who cares what debt pile it came from? -- nm - Redmond Aug 6, 19:49 1
  - good point. - znufrii Aug 6, 19:51
3 billion dollars to help salvage the auto industry and the millions of resultant jobs while improving environmental concerns and lowering demand for - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:33 44
- Not sure why it can't be funded out of the stimulus package money that hasn't gone out - Stewie Aug 6, 18:42 7
  - That was my suggestion last week anyhow...it makes the most sense, but either way...3 billion dollars for a program that actually works - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:43
  - umm, isnt that where the additional billions are coming from? - tRuMaN Aug 6, 18:42 5
    - oh really? Then what are people complaining about if the money was already allocated -- nm - Stewie Aug 6, 18:43 4
      - cause its money they cant pork barrel spend on a pet projectg -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 6, 18:53
      - well there's guys like Jim DeMint saying that even if it works, it's a bad idea. -- nm - Reagen Aug 6, 18:48 2
        
        I'd just like to say once again how proud I am of my state. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Aug 6, 18:48 1
        
        such a horny, horny state. -- nm - Max Aug 6, 18:50
- Giving money to the rich and disabling the cars??? - nubby, Astronauts champion Aug 6, 18:38 3
  - And make them poorer? - the liioulu with questions Aug 6, 18:40 1
    - and repairs -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 6, 19:45
  - Haha. Really -- nm - Redmond Aug 6, 18:39
- I heard a figure the other day and for the life of me I can't remember it but I am sure it's search able. - Redmond Aug 6, 18:36 20
  - ML had a link on the program this morning. And all those cars, even if foreign-manufacturers employ thousands of Americans. - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:39 19
    - I understand they employ thousands of Americans. But we aren't spending Billions upon Billions propping Toyota up. - Redmond Aug 6, 18:42 18
      - Yeah, there's massive trade law issues. Trade wars in a global recession....that's dumb as hell. - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:45 5
        
        3 billion to me represents the straw that broke the camels back. - Redmond Aug 6, 18:48 3
        
        BC hydro has a program like that. if you replace your old fridge or water heater, they'll give you cash and haul the old one away. - mafic Aug 6, 19:36
        
        Uhm...there is a cash for energy ineffecient appliances scheme here. - the liioulu with questions Aug 6, 18:52
        
        Let me know when Frigidaire is responsible for 1% of the American population's employment status. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:49
        
        groiny should be by any second. -- nm - Reagen Aug 6, 18:46
      - either the Accord or the Camry is the most American-made car out there. -- nm - Reagen Aug 6, 18:44 11
        
        Honda and Toyota aren't in bankruptcy is my point. - Redmond Aug 6, 18:46 10
        
        ehh not so healthy, Toyota is closing its huge car plant in Northern California, Numi in Fremont. 5000 people will be losing their jobs. -- nm - Stacy Aug 6, 18:57
        
        They employ Americans? -- nm - the liioulu with questions Aug 6, 18:53 5
        
        Toyota builds an entire line in Indiana iirc. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:56 1
        
        I know, see below. - the liioulu with questions Aug 6, 18:57
        
        yeah they do -- nm - Remlik Aug 6, 18:55 2
        
        It was meant more as an answer as to why they should get US moneys. - the liioulu with questions Aug 6, 18:56 1
        
        Well I knew what you meant. -- nm - Redmond Aug 6, 19:01
        
        Becuase the alternative isn't feasible as a targeted Ford/Chrysler/GM program - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:48 1
        
        it's more "bubble-up" than "trickle-down", technically speaking. -- nm - znufrii Aug 6, 19:52
        
        because it would actually benefit the most Americans. -- nm - Reagen Aug 6, 18:47
- Or two days of the Iraq War. -- nm - Reagen Aug 6, 18:36 4
  - this is my context for the USPS wanting to scale back to 5 day weeks because they don't have the money. seriously? seriously?? - Max Aug 6, 18:38 3
    - They could fund it by eliminating the penny and the dollar bill. -- nm - Reagen Aug 6, 18:42 1
      - They need to start a Money for Mail program. Turn in your old stamps for new ones and the government kicks in 40% toward new stamps. -- nm - Redmond Aug 6, 18:44
    - *has a stroke* -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Aug 6, 18:38
- but why can't we donate the engines to the starving children in africa? -- nm - Max Aug 6, 18:36 3
  - We need to teach them how to make their own engines in Africa and exploit the cheap labor. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:40 2
    - they still don't have a way to ship stuff in and out. -- nm - loosilu Aug 6, 18:44 1
      - We'll work on that. no UAW, you'll have companies lining up to make the ports. :) -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 6, 18:46
- that's my thinking on it. -- nm - Remlik Aug 6, 18:34
- I think this is money well spent -- nm - amoxy Aug 6, 18:34
You know what? Fine. We've got time to figure that out. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Aug 6, 18:32 3
- Screw it. I don't have kids. Let's charge ourselves into China Slaves. Just as long as it happens after I am dead. -- nm - Redmond Aug 6, 18:38 1
  - I think it's funny that economic forecasts are made assuming that no economic policies ever change for hundreds of years. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Aug 6, 18:40
- So have they. They can get off our lawns and figure out the debt for themselves. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 6, 18:34

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