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Agree or disagree: Government should provide for all citizens' needs and none of their wants. -- nm

Posted by nubby, Astronauts champion (aka nubby) Aug 7 '09, 16:41

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Disagree. I need air. Not government's business to provide it. Though it is nice that they help keep it clean. - TWuG Aug 7, 17:47
I think I don't care because it's Friday. -- nm - Redmond Aug 7, 17:05
Disagree. Gov't should provide for my need to not get killed by invading forces. The rest of my needs are up to me. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:50 28
- "Damn, that flood wiped out the road to that guys house. He has no way to get into town unless we fix it." "That's his problem - not ours." -- nm - Dept of Transportation Aug 7, 16:54 2
  - After watching some highway crews, I think the DOT could be privatized with good results. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:55 1
    - might vary by state, but a lot of work is done through private contractors, but paid by taxes -- nm - Guy Aug 7, 16:56
- "Look, that guy's house is on fire!" "He'll take care of it." -- nm - Firefighters Aug 7, 16:52 1
  - Look that woman has no food let's buy her slurpees. -- nm - Department of Slurpee buying Aug 7, 17:04
- I'd like my goverment to provide for a few other needs, such as the means for interstate commerce and a criminal justice system. -- nm - Fuzzy Aug 7, 16:52
- So, that's all you want from a government - socialized armed forces, and the tax collection required to sustain that? -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:51 17
  - They can keep delivering the mail too, I suppose. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:53 4
    - so ... you want to keep the US Armed Forces and the US Postal Service and the IRS ... what else do you want to keep, federally? -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:55 3
      - Not sure about the IRS. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:56 2
        
        Well, you need some way to fund the US Armed Forces. Assuming that stamps alone fund the USPS, which is doubtful. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:56 1
        
        Easy! We send them overseas and they can keep what they take! -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:59
  - (The US armed forces, contrasted with Blackwater/Xe, pretty much highlight why I prefer government-run programs over corporate-run programs ...) - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:53 11
    - DMV. Enough said. -- nm - Redmond Aug 7, 17:15 1
      - Oh for the love of Remlik. - nubby, Astronauts champion Aug 7, 17:27
    - Last I heard, Blackwater had a pretty good record going. - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:54 8
      - I posted something a day or two ago (ST for "Blackwater") that will chill you. Thems some bad-bad boys. -- nm - Mop (face it, the scale says 240 lbs) Aug 7, 17:01
      - *headdesk* You need to read a bit more about that organization. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:55 6
        
        (Between the child prostitute usage - which many would call rape - and the wife swapping, there's also the actual illegality of explosive ordinance) - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:59 1
        
        and lets not forget the putting out contracts for hits on witnesses to their attrocities part -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 7, 17:14
        
        Probably. Though our definitions of 'evil' aren't too similar, IIRC. :) -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:58 3
        
        evil, in this case = killing non-threat civilians, breaking some pretty rigid laws on explosive ammunition, and then some -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 17:00 2
        
        work is done now, heading home ... sorry for the trailing off on "and then some", I don't feel like researching right now :) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 17:01 1
        
        Fair enough. I'm outtie myself. But I will read up. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 17:03
- "Hey, is that guy getting mugged?" "Yeah, but he doesn't need us to stop them." -- nm - Cops Aug 7, 16:51 3
  - Sorry, I assumed we were talking Federal. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:52 2
    - same basic principles, no? -- nm - Guy Aug 7, 16:55 1
      - No. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 7, 16:55
Disagree. -- nm - Stephen Aug 7, 16:47
As long as government is being captained by the Russels and Ronnies of the world, it can do no good. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:45 1
- (I suppose you can toss the "Jordans" and "Brendans" in there, too ... although a Jordan would at least *try* to do good :)) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 7, 16:45
A bit too broad but I'd agree. -- nm - Krusty Aug 7, 16:44
I need a lot of stuff, nubby. -- nm - Mop (still 235lbs... on a good day) Aug 7, 16:43
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- Then clearly you don't *need* it. -- nm - Fuzzy Aug 7, 16:44 2
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    - I just meant that for Pelosi to be involved, you would have definitely moved into "need" territory. Nobody "wants" that. -- nm - Fuzzy Aug 7, 16:49
disagree - way too broad. -- nm - Don Homer Aug 7, 16:43
"That would be socialism" -- nm - ignorant electorate Aug 7, 16:42
I agree with the statement but I'm certain the main debate will be the definition of "needs". -- nm - Fuzzy Aug 7, 16:42

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