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i'm sorry, but the argument that i only used supplements, and therefore I have no idea why I failed the drug test

Posted by tRuMaN (aka tRuMaN) Aug 8 '09, 10:39

is stupid.

he knew about the rules regarding such substances, shouldnt he have been reading, or had a professoinal read, all supplements before he took them?

take some personal responsibility.

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believing they didn't know what they were doing is as stupid as looking at their bodies and thinking it was natural -- nm - Stewie Aug 8, 11:03
the second thing you mention is what didn't happen. - Mel Profit Aug 8, 10:44 22
- Imo, he tooks steroids. He just found a loophole to say it might not have been him. - Inigo Aug 8, 10:47 4
  - they just need to release the damm list. -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 8, 10:49 3
    - They can't. It's s a sealed document from a grand jury. Anytime a name gets released someone is breaking the law. - Inigo Aug 8, 10:54 1
      - and they could petition the judge to do that. - tRuMaN Aug 8, 10:57
    - I agree but they're all going to claim to be one the eight that weren't on the juice. Such a joke what happened today. -- nm - Krusty Aug 8, 10:51
- ok. so he says he never took roids, but took supplements, and admits to supplements? - tRuMaN Aug 8, 10:45 16
  - He's admitted to ignorance that the supplements he took had a band substance. - Mel Profit Aug 8, 10:47 15
    - ok, so he was cheating, he just isnt now. so he still cheated. -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 8, 10:48 14
      - If that's how you want to frame it...sure. -- nm - Mel Profit Aug 8, 10:50 13
        
        You do realize that if this information about 8 not testing positive for steroids had come out 6 months ago... - Inigo Aug 8, 10:52 1
        
        *ding* How nice for him the union said what they did today. -- nm - Krusty Aug 8, 10:53
        
        how else would one frame it? -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 8, 10:51 10
        
        that he took legal over the counter supplements, which either could have caused a false positive or he was one of the people who didn't test positive - Farmer Ted Aug 8, 10:53 9
        
        Even if he was one of the 8, it also could mean that he took an illegal sustance not classified as steroids. -- nm - Inigo Aug 8, 10:56 4
        
        or it could have been a legal one not classified as steroids, which is what he's saying -- nm - Farmer Ted Aug 8, 10:59 3
        
        I'd bet these tests were very solid. it took the union years to agree to any testing. - Inigo Aug 8, 11:05 2
        
        or the union finally agreed to them because they were full of holes. -- nm - mafic Aug 8, 11:08 1
        
        Fehr had been saying that drug testing was against their rights. He played that card until it couldn't be played anymore. -- nm - Inigo Aug 8, 11:10
        
        the false positives were for steriods, that doesnt mean that those players were not positive for another preformance enhacing drug. -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 8, 10:56 3
        
        MLB and the union just said today that substances other than steroids (including legal ones) could have caused a positive result -- nm - Farmer Ted Aug 8, 10:58 2
        
        That's a caveat with any drug test. It's a pretty small chance though. - Inigo Aug 8, 11:02
        
        sure, but they also said they dont know who the 8 were or what caused the false positive. so basically, ortiz is using a loophole to not answer. -- nm - tRuMaN Aug 8, 11:00
what rules? there were no rules. McGwire had andro sitting in his locker after the games -- nm - Farmer Ted Aug 8, 10:41 3
- That was before 2003 and in 2003 they all knew the testing was coming. If they failed the first test they were told - Krusty Aug 8, 10:46
- At the time of drug tests there were rules. They even told them to stop taking supplements during the second test. - Inigo Aug 8, 10:44
- i'm pretty sure the mlb has had a ban of performance enhancing drugs for a decade or more. - tRuMaN Aug 8, 10:44

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