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Sorry, Sarah Palin - rationing of care? Private companies are already doing it, with sometimes fatal results. -- (link)

Posted by Don Homer (aka DonHomer) Aug 11 '09, 05:15

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link (www.salon.com)

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- One problem. The bill cannot pass and the Democrats have the numbers to do it. A lot of them are not on board. - Redmond Aug 11, 07:17 1
  - that's really the big problem getting obscured by the coverage of the crazies - znufrii Aug 11, 07:25
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  - There's also Newt's tactic of "making shit up". -- nm - Reagen Aug 11, 06:50
  - the crazies come out regardless. -- nm - znufrii Aug 11, 06:45
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- it feels like the last couple of days have seen some pushback. - Reagen Aug 11, 06:33 3
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    - part of it is that I don't think they really could have been prepared for how crazy they were going to get. - Reagen Aug 11, 06:35 1
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Some of the bullshit tactics in that article make my blood boil. - Reagen Aug 11, 06:23 1
- It's criminal. The heads of these companies are murderers. -- nm - Don Homer Aug 11, 06:26
my parents' next-door neighbor is slowly dying of liver failure and Kaiser wont cover the cost to give him a liver transplant. It's frickin bs. -- nm - Stacy Aug 11, 05:22 25
- Do you know what the insurance company is telling him? Like, why they won't cover it? - Jim Aug 11, 06:11 19
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      - why would you want to give a liver to someone who will be dead in a short time frame anyway when you could save someone who will live for years? -- nm - Beaker Aug 11, 07:35 1
        
        reading further I don;t think you meant this so nevermind. -- nm - Beaker Aug 11, 07:36
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    - Hence my question... -- nm - Jim Aug 11, 06:27 12
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        Ultimately...they don't want to pay out the thousands of dollars for a transplant. The reason for that could be anything... - Jim Aug 11, 06:38 4
        
        exactly -- nm - Don Homer Aug 11, 06:40 3
        
        And I didn't say that right. I meant tens of thousands of dollars. -- nm - Jim Aug 11, 06:41 2
        
        Yes, though they also deny plenty of less-expensive procedures of course. -- nm - Don Homer Aug 11, 06:42 1
        
        Word. And it's up to idiots like me to make the claim forms so perfect they can't find a reason to deny. nm - Jim Aug 11, 06:45
        
        it might have something to do with his age, he is in his 70's. -- nm - Stacy Aug 11, 06:37 5
        
        Yeah...that'll do it. Extreme age for a procedure like this...the success rate has to be incredibly low... - Jim Aug 11, 06:40 4
        
        It's always a tough call, how much care are they entitled to when they're not going to be around very long to enjoy to benefits of it, regardless? - znufrii Aug 11, 06:44 3
        
        Is he paying his premium? - BB Aug 11, 06:58 2
        
        Unfortunately, that's not how it works. The docs would have to provide a pretty persuasive argument as to why they would do an organ - Jim Aug 11, 07:06 1
        
        I know what we have now. I'm saying what should happen. - BB Aug 11, 07:13
- Get the local news involded. Get Michael Moore involed. Get the word out. - lileve Aug 11, 06:06 4
  - the hospital claims that only 7% of liver transplants are a success and with a cost of over 300k they feel it is not good enough chances to cover. -- nm - Stacy Aug 11, 06:13 3
    - Tell them to google Steve Jobs. He just had one. -- nm - lileve Aug 11, 06:14 2
      - So? - Will Hunting Aug 11, 06:19 1
        
        Very true. -- nm - lileve Aug 11, 06:30

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