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TTDML: What should I cook for dinner? The two choices are: Chicken Piccata (with artichoke hearts and mushrooms) or Chicken w/ Pasta Puttanesca? - 'lia Aug 17, 12:42 5
- Piccata -- nm - Epiphany Aug 17, 12:52
- Clearly this is realyl about capers. In which case I say piccata. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:43 2
  - Agreed -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:44
  - dammit! I forgot to put capers in my pasta sauce tonight. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:44
- piccata -- nm - TFox Aug 17, 12:42
Forget Carbon Dating. Internet-date when this page was developed. - ty97 Aug 17, 12:40 3
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- You just don't understand. -- nm - stacy Aug 17, 12:42
- wow, pre-tables!!! 1995. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:40
My wife thought our icebox was broken. She was talking about getting a new one. I flipped the breaker back on. Silly woman -- nm - CQ Aug 17, 12:40 2
- Maybe it's time to join the twentieth century and get a refrigerator? -- nm - mara Aug 17, 12:43
- but really, she was just trying to trick you into getting a new ice box. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:40
speaking of swine (district 9 spoils) - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:32 4
- We saw it last night. *Loved* it. But I agree with other posts I read that it was (excellently) overly-gory. - JaxSean Aug 17, 12:44
- It reminded me of "Deadliest Warrior". -- nm - Diva Aug 17, 12:37
- word to your IM -- nm - Spawn Aug 17, 12:34
- Word. - znufrii Aug 17, 12:33
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- You do here. In Germany, I have no idea. -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:33
Dear Heavens, the picture of Obama with the green surgical cap on the left is quite the sight -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:30
Chaz Schilens! -- nm - David, Nailin' It Aug 17, 12:29 1
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ST: I need some tourism help. - ty97 Aug 17, 12:27 39
- milan is so-so. and full of pickpockets last time I was there. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:35 8
  - I have heard to be careful in Italy. Rome is on my must-see list of cities, but alas, not this trip. -- nm - ty97 Aug 17, 12:36 4
    - I'd go to florence or venice before rome. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:41 3
      - Rome is possibly the city at the top of my list of places I must see. - ty97 Aug 17, 12:44 1
        
        I never had issues with pickpockets in rome. only tourist shills. - mafic Aug 17, 12:49
      - Venice is way overrated. I'd absolutely go to Florence first. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:42
  - everywhere in Italy is. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:35 2
    - yeah, but milan was the worst (I'll assume you mean pickpockets). -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:40 1
      - my dad (native New Yorker) got pickpocketed in Rome. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:41
- Personally, I'd probably just got to the cities assigned early and sight see there for the most part. There's plenty to do in each of them. - pmb Aug 17, 12:33 10
  - I don't know much about Stockholm. Is there 3-4 days worth of stuff to do there? - ty97 Aug 17, 12:38 3
    - There are several things worth sightseeing and it's a very pretty city. I think most cities you can spend 3 or 4 days just wandering around on top of - pmb Aug 17, 12:44
    - Stockholm would be my first choice even though I've been there before. - MojaveMeg Aug 17, 12:44 1
      - The Vasa was very cool. -- nm - pmb Aug 17, 12:44
  - oh god yes, and France is basically closed in August as well. thanks for reminding. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:34 5
    - I know that's supposed to be the case with Paris. I was in the south of France in August and it was busy, but obviously that's a vacation destination - pmb Aug 17, 12:36 4
      - pretty sure Paris museums, etc are open, but a lot of small stores are closed. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:37 3
        
        When I was in Milan it was literally difficult to find someplace to eat. - pmb Aug 17, 12:39 2
        
        I had that problem in Spain. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:39 1
        
        but did the rain fall mainly in the plain? -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:40
- IMO you're trynig to see too many things. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:31 5
  - I saw Lausanne, Interloken, Rome, Venice, Paris, and some of the Loire Valley in one week. It ruled. -- nm - TFox Aug 17, 12:42 4
    - I guess if your idea of fun is to sit in a bus. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:43 3
      - Sleep on the trains. Wake up in new places. See more. Win. -- nm - TFox Aug 17, 12:43 2
        
        I think you miss more than you gain. spending one day in any of those places and you're doing it superficially by necessity. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:47
        
        see more, experience less. I like my way. :) -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:45
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  - I have never been anywhere outside of the US that I wasn't sent to by work. - ty97 Aug 17, 12:35 1
    - Paris is TOTALLY worth it. there's a reason why it's one of the world's great cities. don't listen to the heathens. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:36
  - Paris sucks. -- nm - CQ Aug 17, 12:31 9
    - I don't have fond memories of Paris either. -- nm - Jim Aug 17, 12:38 4
      - I've heard a lot of "The city is great, the people suck" - ty97 Aug 17, 12:41 3
        
        Well, my experience...(spoilers) - Jim Aug 17, 12:46
        
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        you could say that about any big city, like NY. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:42
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    - word -- nm - Spawn Aug 17, 12:32
    - Paris is awesome. You suck. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:32 1
      - thanks -- nm - Paris Hilton Aug 17, 12:33
Vegans are effin idiots. -- nm - CQ Aug 17, 12:24 11
- from a sustainability standpoint it makes some sense. the livestock industry is one of the larger greenhouse emitters, and you can't really have mass - mafic Aug 17, 12:39
- Leave 'em be, their diets approach something that can be called environmental sustainability -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:34 3
  - Unless they're living off the land they aren't any closer to "environmental sustainability" than meat eaters. -- nm - TWuG Aug 17, 12:36 2
    - the amount of carbon it takes to put a hamburger on the table is pretty staggering. -- nm - Andie Aug 17, 12:42
    - I was referring to the ecological burden of animals being raised. I don't know if that counts as "living off the land" as you say -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:39
- Is there a name for vegans who eat bacon? nm - Dignan Aug 17, 12:26 2
  - Hypocrits? (nm) - musubi Aug 17, 12:42
  - Swine-ists? -- nm - Epiphany Aug 17, 12:31
- You can call me all the names you want, but I am still not blowing you. -- nm - vegan Aug 17, 12:25
- I tend to agree -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:25
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Uck. The puppy vomited up what can best be described as liquified shit. It was runny, medium brown in color and smelled like shit. And she did it on - TWuG Aug 17, 12:22 3
- hee hee, dogs are too dumb to not eat poop. nm - Dignan Aug 17, 12:24
- That does not sound good. Keep an eye on the puppy and take it to the vet if it does not get better. -- nm - lileve Aug 17, 12:23 1
  - She has a check-up appointment already scheduled for 10 am tomorrow. - TWuG Aug 17, 12:26
hmmm... can vegans eat (or drink, I guess) breast milk? -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:21 18
- When vegans talk about animal products, they mean other, non-human animals. -- nm - mara Aug 17, 12:25 1
  - So you're saying they're cannibals? - the wrong element, bad guy Aug 17, 12:45
- Nor do we give head. - vegan Aug 17, 12:25
- If they are true, hell no. -- nm - Spawn Aug 17, 12:22
- why on earth not? -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:21 13
  - because they've already demonstrated themselves to be quite odd ... denial of sustenance that is clearly biologically intended to be used as such ... - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:23 4
    - this is true. However, I don't know what they'd feed an infant if they don't do breast milk. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:24 2
      - I believe there was an instance around here a while back where a child was seized because the vegan parents were malnourishing it. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:25 1
        
        I'm sure it has happened on numerous occasions. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:25
    - Let the milk cow explode! -- nm - vegan Aug 17, 12:24
  - "milk" -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:22 7
    - from an animal. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:23 6
      - are you saying humans aren't animals? -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:23 5
        
        animals other t han ourselves. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:24 4
        
        so could a vegan also be a cannibal? -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:25 1
        
        heh -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:25
        
        so you're saying vegans can be cannibals? --nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:25 1
        
        I suppose the person would have to die naturally, in which case you might not want to eat them for a myriad of reasons. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:26
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- hee - some pap did catch her with her boyfriend about 3 months ago - making out on some rocks - Epiphany Aug 17, 12:37
GI effin' Joe: D nm - Dignan Aug 17, 12:19 1
- I saw this for free as a double header at a drive-in this weekend. I kept thinking that the mad scientist's voice must have been Justin Long's. - Max Aug 17, 12:55
Is the Chipacabra vegetarian? :) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:19
ohh, there's a question. What *IS* vegan? How does it differ from vegetarian? - ty97 Aug 17, 12:15 55
- no animal-derived products. so no dairy, honey, leather, silk, wool, or theoretically anything animal-tested. and like a billion other things too. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:18 25
  - This list of things that DON'T contain animal products is probably shorter than the list of things that do. - TWuG Aug 17, 12:25 14
    - Fruit wouldn't exist were it not for animals that aid in sexual reproduction, right? -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:26 9
      - most US crops would not exist without honeybees. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:29 8
        
        hence why the recent hive collapse phenomenon has been so concerning. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:29 7
        
        I saw a story about two months ago that indicated the trend was reversing. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:30 5
        
        well, that's a relief, but still concerning unless we can figure out what caused it in the first place. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:32 4
        
        yep, causes still not known. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:34 3
        
        I thought it was traced to some virus (bee disease) from hives in Australia? - Cuzzin Todd Aug 17, 12:44 1
        
        that's one of multiple theories. no consensus yet, from what I read. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:46
        
        It's unknowable. nm - M Night Aug 17, 12:38
        
        very much so. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:30
    - oh yeah, you know what's not vegan? ANything containing certain red dyes. they're made from insects. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:26 3
      - Yeah, people passed that story around a few years ago - "omg, red dye is made from crushed bugs!" - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:27 2
        
        doesn't bother me in the least. But it's not kosher, either. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:29 1
        
        yep. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:30
  - I've thought honey has hostorically been a point of contention among vegan types... -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:24 2
    - and silk. and occasionally wool. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:30
    - among other things, yes. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:24
  - no white sugar. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:19 6
    - How is that not vegan? It's not from an animal. That's more of a nutrional stand point, right? -- nm - lileve Aug 17, 12:23 5
      - I think it would have to do with the process whereby the sugar is refined. By dung beetles, or something. I dunno. :) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:24 4
        
        filtered through charred bones. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:25 3
        
        I didn't know that. Wow. Thanks! -- nm - lileve Aug 17, 12:43
        
        wait, really? I never knew this... -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:26 1
        
        yeah, about 1/4 of the white sugar sold in the US ... but you don't know which 1/4. -- (link) - loosilu Aug 17, 12:28
- also - apparently doritos use rennet - which is from a calf stomach, so, NOT vegetarian. -- (link) - Elf Andie Aug 17, 12:17 1
  - see my linky in prev thread. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:18
- vegetarian extreme -- nm - Spawn Aug 17, 12:17
- I am guessing - vegetarian eats no meat products - vegans eat no animal products or by products - Epiphany Aug 17, 12:17
- vegetarian = no meat products; vegan = no animal products of any kind. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:17
- No dairy. No animal products for clothes. Etc. -- (link) - mara Aug 17, 12:17 13
  - Interesting. Sounds like it requires some definite determination. -- nm - ty97 Aug 17, 12:19 12
    - yes, there are some pretty hard core vegans out there. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:20
    - well, it's not like you need to pass a test or get a license. it's a personal choice. people choose what means something to them. -- nm - Elf Andie Aug 17, 12:19 9
      - yeah, it's extremely difficult to avoid all animal products and I don't htink it's fair to knock people for not doing it 100%. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:20
      - oh, I know. Still, if someone is living by those rules (or many of them) it doesn't sound easy. - ty97 Aug 17, 12:20 7
        
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        oh come on... - znufrii Aug 17, 12:27 5
        
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        I don't make outlandish claims about my lifestyle that are solely for attention grabbing purposes and not grounded in fact to some extent. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:31 3
        
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        I always approached as more of an idea about relationships rather than something that defined my lifestyle. try again. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:36 1
        
        L3! -- nm - Spawn Aug 17, 12:42
    - you can be more hardcore than that. see: Fruitarians. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:19
- vegans generally don't eat milk, eggs, etc. vegetarians just don't eat meat. it's a personal scale though. - Elf Andie Aug 17, 12:17 5
  - Veganism is not due to a personal scale. It's pretty strictly no animal products. -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:20 2
    - The level of attentiveness that adherents afford it is a personal scale -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:21 1
      - Ah, yes. Hence the common phrase "mostly vegan diet" -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:21
  - yeah, if I was going to go down that road, I'd be pescetarian. (Vegetarian plus fish/seafood) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:17 1
    - I call it "Catholic vegetarian". -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:18
- no animal products whatsoever, including dairy and honey. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:16 2
  - does that expand past diet to clothing, such as shoes (no leather)? -- nm - ty97 Aug 17, 12:17 1
    - usually, but many vegetarians don't use leather either. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:18
- seventh-level vegans pocket mulch. Seriously, though - I think it means no animal byproducts, either. - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:16
"Spicy Sweet Chili" doritos are supposedly vegan. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:15 2
- and they are PETA-approved. -- (link) - loosilu Aug 17, 12:16 1
  - I believe I've tried this flavor and it is good -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:18
*rolls around naked in his 1 million Ika gold* -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:14 4
- My next cargo ship will cost 1.25 million. nm - Dignan Aug 17, 12:16 3
  - good Lord. How many do you have? do you have a 10% off island? -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:20 2
    - 156, and that's with the 10% reduction. nm - Dignan Aug 17, 12:25 1
      - just 4 more!!! well done sir -- nm - Beaker Aug 17, 12:26

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