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ohh, there's a question. What IS vegan? How does it differ from vegetarian?

Posted by ty97 Aug 17 '09, 12:15

Is it like a vegetarian+ ?

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no animal-derived products. so no dairy, honey, leather, silk, wool, or theoretically anything animal-tested. and like a billion other things too. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:18 25
- This list of things that DON'T contain animal products is probably shorter than the list of things that do. - TWuG Aug 17, 12:25 14
  - Fruit wouldn't exist were it not for animals that aid in sexual reproduction, right? -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:26 9
    - most US crops would not exist without honeybees. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:29 8
      - hence why the recent hive collapse phenomenon has been so concerning. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:29 7
        
        I saw a story about two months ago that indicated the trend was reversing. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:30 5
        
        well, that's a relief, but still concerning unless we can figure out what caused it in the first place. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:32 4
        
        yep, causes still not known. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:34 3
        
        I thought it was traced to some virus (bee disease) from hives in Australia? - Cuzzin Todd Aug 17, 12:44 1
        
        that's one of multiple theories. no consensus yet, from what I read. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:46
        
        It's unknowable. nm - M Night Aug 17, 12:38
        
        very much so. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:30
  - oh yeah, you know what's not vegan? ANything containing certain red dyes. they're made from insects. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:26 3
    - Yeah, people passed that story around a few years ago - "omg, red dye is made from crushed bugs!" - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:27 2
      - doesn't bother me in the least. But it's not kosher, either. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:29 1
        
        yep. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:30
- I've thought honey has hostorically been a point of contention among vegan types... -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:24 2
  - and silk. and occasionally wool. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:30
  - among other things, yes. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:24
- no white sugar. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:19 6
  - How is that not vegan? It's not from an animal. That's more of a nutrional stand point, right? -- nm - lileve Aug 17, 12:23 5
    - I think it would have to do with the process whereby the sugar is refined. By dung beetles, or something. I dunno. :) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:24 4
      - filtered through charred bones. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:25 3
        
        I didn't know that. Wow. Thanks! -- nm - lileve Aug 17, 12:43
        
        wait, really? I never knew this... -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:26 1
        
        yeah, about 1/4 of the white sugar sold in the US ... but you don't know which 1/4. -- (link) - loosilu Aug 17, 12:28
also - apparently doritos use rennet - which is from a calf stomach, so, NOT vegetarian. -- (link) - Elf Andie Aug 17, 12:17 1
- see my linky in prev thread. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:18
vegetarian extreme -- nm - Spawn Aug 17, 12:17
I am guessing - vegetarian eats no meat products - vegans eat no animal products or by products - Epiphany Aug 17, 12:17
vegetarian = no meat products; vegan = no animal products of any kind. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:17
No dairy. No animal products for clothes. Etc. -- (link) - mara Aug 17, 12:17 13
- Interesting. Sounds like it requires some definite determination. -- nm - ty97 Aug 17, 12:19 12
  - yes, there are some pretty hard core vegans out there. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:20
  - well, it's not like you need to pass a test or get a license. it's a personal choice. people choose what means something to them. -- nm - Elf Andie Aug 17, 12:19 9
    - yeah, it's extremely difficult to avoid all animal products and I don't htink it's fair to knock people for not doing it 100%. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:20
    - oh, I know. Still, if someone is living by those rules (or many of them) it doesn't sound easy. - ty97 Aug 17, 12:20 7
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        oh come on... - znufrii Aug 17, 12:27 5
        
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        I don't make outlandish claims about my lifestyle that are solely for attention grabbing purposes and not grounded in fact to some extent. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:31 3
        
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        I always approached as more of an idea about relationships rather than something that defined my lifestyle. try again. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:36 1
        
        L3! -- nm - Spawn Aug 17, 12:42
  - you can be more hardcore than that. see: Fruitarians. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:19
vegans generally don't eat milk, eggs, etc. vegetarians just don't eat meat. it's a personal scale though. - Elf Andie Aug 17, 12:17 5
- Veganism is not due to a personal scale. It's pretty strictly no animal products. -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:20 2
  - The level of attentiveness that adherents afford it is a personal scale -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:21 1
    - Ah, yes. Hence the common phrase "mostly vegan diet" -- nm - con_carne Aug 17, 12:21
- yeah, if I was going to go down that road, I'd be pescetarian. (Vegetarian plus fish/seafood) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:17 1
  - I call it "Catholic vegetarian". -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:18
no animal products whatsoever, including dairy and honey. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:16 2
- does that expand past diet to clothing, such as shoes (no leather)? -- nm - ty97 Aug 17, 12:17 1
  - usually, but many vegetarians don't use leather either. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:18
seventh-level vegans pocket mulch. Seriously, though - I think it means no animal byproducts, either. - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:16

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