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In response to "ohh, there's a question. What *IS* vegan? How does it differ from vegetarian?" by ty97

no animal-derived products. so no dairy, honey, leather, silk, wool, or theoretically anything animal-tested. and like a billion other things too. -- nm

Posted by mafic Aug 17 '09, 12:18

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This list of things that DON'T contain animal products is probably shorter than the list of things that do. - TWuG Aug 17, 12:25 14
- Fruit wouldn't exist were it not for animals that aid in sexual reproduction, right? -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:26 9
  - most US crops would not exist without honeybees. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:29 8
    - hence why the recent hive collapse phenomenon has been so concerning. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:29 7
      - I saw a story about two months ago that indicated the trend was reversing. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:30 5
        
        well, that's a relief, but still concerning unless we can figure out what caused it in the first place. -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:32 4
        
        yep, causes still not known. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:34 3
        
        I thought it was traced to some virus (bee disease) from hives in Australia? - Cuzzin Todd Aug 17, 12:44 1
        
        that's one of multiple theories. no consensus yet, from what I read. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:46
        
        It's unknowable. nm - M Night Aug 17, 12:38
      - very much so. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:30
- oh yeah, you know what's not vegan? ANything containing certain red dyes. they're made from insects. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:26 3
  - Yeah, people passed that story around a few years ago - "omg, red dye is made from crushed bugs!" - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:27 2
    - doesn't bother me in the least. But it's not kosher, either. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:29 1
      - yep. -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:30
I've thought honey has hostorically been a point of contention among vegan types... -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:24 2
- and silk. and occasionally wool. -- nm - mafic Aug 17, 12:30
- among other things, yes. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:24
no white sugar. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:19 6
- How is that not vegan? It's not from an animal. That's more of a nutrional stand point, right? -- nm - lileve Aug 17, 12:23 5
  - I think it would have to do with the process whereby the sugar is refined. By dung beetles, or something. I dunno. :) -- nm - Beryllium Aug 17, 12:24 4
    - filtered through charred bones. -- nm - loosilu Aug 17, 12:25 3
      - I didn't know that. Wow. Thanks! -- nm - lileve Aug 17, 12:43
      - wait, really? I never knew this... -- nm - znufrii Aug 17, 12:26 1
        
        yeah, about 1/4 of the white sugar sold in the US ... but you don't know which 1/4. -- (link) - loosilu Aug 17, 12:28

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