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To me, both signal settling down and geographically concrete obligations. You're 20-22 years old, how is that desirable?! -- nm

Posted by Hotkiss (aka hotkiss7348) Aug 21 '09, 08:40

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People without borders by their very nature lack definition. how is that desirable?! -- nm - Max Aug 21, 08:54 3
- Easily forgotten, at least. -- nm - Spawn Aug 21, 08:55
- "Baby, we don't need labels." -- nm - Hotkiss Aug 21, 08:55 1
  - We may not need them, but we inevitably earn them. -- nm - Max Aug 21, 09:03
It wasn't for me at that age but is for some people. This person will own a house, free and clear, at 52 years old. - ty97 Aug 21, 08:50 4
- Isn't it crazy to think it takes 1/3 of a lifetime to earn a house? -- nm - Hotkiss Aug 21, 08:51 3
  - Maybe that means you're buying too much house. -- nm - mara Aug 21, 08:54
  - probably much less. you're generally pretty low on the earnings ladder at 22. -- nm - mafic Aug 21, 08:53
  - Definitely. -- nm - starving kids in Darfur Aug 21, 08:52
see above. I live almost 15,000km from my mortgage. -- nm - mafic Aug 21, 08:46 7
- So we'd have like 24 hours to clean up after the keggar is what you're saying. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 21, 08:47 6
  - more like 30. - mafic Aug 21, 08:50 5
    - Well, all we have to do is explain who you are, how we know ya, and how much liquor we brought. - Will Hunting Aug 21, 08:51 4
      - and the first two are optional. -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:55 2
        
        Breeds familiarity with the occupant; otherwise, it's just a random flash-mob-party and who's going to let that happen in their rental? -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 21, 08:59 1
        
        my brother might, if it seemed like a good time. -- nm - mafic Aug 21, 09:04
      - just bring an extra bottle of whisky. I'm sure my brother would sell me out for that. -- nm - mafic Aug 21, 08:54
to each their own. if you want people to accept your choices, accept theirs. -- nm - Elf Andie Aug 21, 08:46 2
- Stop making sense. -- nm - Spawn Aug 21, 08:46 1
  - *puts on a REALLY big suit* -- n - Elf Andie Aug 21, 08:47
"The Geographically Concrete Obligations." Would that work as a band name? -- nm - con_carne Aug 21, 08:45
People have different outlooks on life. - Will Hunting Aug 21, 08:43 5
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  - Given her recent life circumstances, it's clear that she's not in the mindset of understanding this. - Will Hunting Aug 21, 08:46 1
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  - I disagree. It is a statement of her "now". -- nm - Spawn Aug 21, 08:45 1
    - Exactly. -- nm - Will Hunting Aug 21, 08:48
Uh, couples travel. -- nm - Spawn Aug 21, 08:43
I'm 40 and don't want either. people are different. -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:43
Because different people want/value different things? -- nm - kelly Aug 21, 08:42
because people feel society expects it of them, in many cases, and have a vested interest in meeting that expectation, for whatever reason. -- nm - znufrii Aug 21, 08:41 41
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  - Actually, I think it's a precisely accurate description of one of the influences on my decision making at the time. - znufrii Aug 21, 08:47 1
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- because all desires are externally imposed? -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:43 17
  - that's not what I'm saying here at all. -- nm - znufrii Aug 21, 08:45 16
    - you are certainly implying that no one that age could want it of their own accord. -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:46 15
      - see my response to Bery below. -- nm - znufrii Aug 21, 08:48 14
        
        yeah, you said the other option was doing it on a whim. there is a choice C. -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:49 12
        
        regardless, what part of "in many cases" do you not understand here? - znufrii Aug 21, 08:51 11
        
        Many cases seems to imply the majority of these people settling down into 'adulthood' are doing it because of societal pressures. - Will Hunting Aug 21, 08:53 8
        
        those two options aren't mutually exclusive. - znufrii Aug 21, 08:58 7
        
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        but also consider the idea that doing something to rebel against societal expectations can be just as influenced by them. -- nm - znufrii Aug 21, 09:07 1
        
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        I'm thinking of something a bit more subtle than what you're describing - znufrii Aug 21, 09:04 2
        
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        It's not even always so much about caring what society would think (because really, society on the whole doesn't really care) - znufrii Aug 21, 09:12
        
        please don't go to law school. :) -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:52 1
        
        wasn't intending to. - znufrii Aug 21, 08:53
        
        Subby, not Bery, oops -- nm - znufrii Aug 21, 08:48
- What's frustrating is I think a lot of people jump into those expectations without once considering other options. -- nm - Hotkiss Aug 21, 08:43 17
  - Girls tend to say that guys consider it way too much. -- nm - Spawn Aug 21, 08:44
  - this is true. Also true of things like med school and law school. -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:43 15
    - and pharmacy school. My God, which of my cousins *aren't* in pharmacy school? -- nm - Hotkiss Aug 21, 08:46 14
      - When I went to my 5th and 10th college reunions, you wouldn't believe how many people regretted going to professional school. and they owed a shitload - loosilu Aug 21, 08:48 12
        
        I thought the ending to professional schooling is boatloads of money and a nice car -- nm - Hotkiss Aug 21, 08:49 1
        
        If you are going to school for 2-5 years, and owe six figures, you better damn well like the job. -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:50
        
        really? wow I find that strange. -- nm - Beaker Aug 21, 08:48 9
        
        It is. -- nm - Spawn Aug 21, 08:55
        
        really? Not strange at all in my experience. -- nm - loosilu Aug 21, 08:50 7
        
        so they didn;t realize they didn;t like their profession for the 10 years or so they were training for it? gotta call Elves on that -- nm - Beaker Aug 21, 08:56 6
        
        Um, law school is three years, med school is four. Neither group practices the actual work at first. So by the 5th reunion - loosilu Aug 21, 08:58 5
        
        yes but you go to college/University before that in preparation for law/med/CPA etc schooling -- nm - Beaker Aug 21, 09:06 3
        
        which also - loosilu Aug 21, 09:09
        
        so 4 years at college, then 3-4 years of more schoolinga nd they couldn;t figure it out? -- nm - Beaker Aug 21, 09:08 1
        
        this may come - loosilu Aug 21, 09:10
        
        As Beaker said, the dumb ones. -- nm - Spawn Aug 21, 09:00
      - the dumb ones? -- nm - Beaker Aug 21, 08:47
- Or they just want it, could be that too. -- nm - Subversive Aug 21, 08:42 1
  - hence why I said "in many cases" - znufrii Aug 21, 08:43

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