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In response to
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To me, both signal settling down and geographically concrete obligations. You're 20-22 years old, how is that desirable?! -- nm
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by
Hotkiss
because people feel society expects it of them, in many cases, and have a vested interest in meeting that expectation, for whatever reason. -- nm
Posted by
znufrii
Aug 21 '09, 08:41
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Actually, I think it's a precisely accurate description of one of the influences on my decision making at the time.
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:47
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because all desires are externally imposed? -- nm
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:43
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that's not what I'm saying here at all. -- nm
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:45
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you are certainly implying that no one that age could want it of their own accord. -- nm
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:46
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see my response to Bery below. -- nm
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:48
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yeah, you said the other option was doing it on a whim. there is a choice C. -- nm
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:49
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regardless, what part of "in many cases" do you not understand here?
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:51
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Many cases seems to imply the majority of these people settling down into 'adulthood' are doing it because of societal pressures.
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Will Hunting
Aug 21, 08:53
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those two options aren't mutually exclusive.
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:58
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but also consider the idea that doing something to rebel against societal expectations can be just as influenced by them. -- nm
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znufrii
Aug 21, 09:07
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I'm thinking of something a bit more subtle than what you're describing
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znufrii
Aug 21, 09:04
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It's not even always so much about caring what society would think (because really, society on the whole doesn't really care)
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znufrii
Aug 21, 09:12
please don't go to law school. :) -- nm
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:52
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wasn't intending to.
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:53
Subby, not Bery, oops -- nm
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:48
What's frustrating is I think a lot of people jump into those expectations without once considering other options. -- nm
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Hotkiss
Aug 21, 08:43
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Girls tend to say that guys consider it way too much. -- nm
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Spawn
Aug 21, 08:44
this is true. Also true of things like med school and law school. -- nm
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:43
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and pharmacy school. My God, which of my cousins *aren't* in pharmacy school? -- nm
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Hotkiss
Aug 21, 08:46
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When I went to my 5th and 10th college reunions, you wouldn't believe how many people regretted going to professional school. and they owed a shitload
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:48
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I thought the ending to professional schooling is boatloads of money and a nice car -- nm
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Hotkiss
Aug 21, 08:49
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If you are going to school for 2-5 years, and owe six figures, you better damn well like the job. -- nm
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:50
really? wow I find that strange. -- nm
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Beaker
Aug 21, 08:48
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It is. -- nm
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Spawn
Aug 21, 08:55
really? Not strange at all in my experience. -- nm
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:50
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so they didn;t realize they didn;t like their profession for the 10 years or so they were training for it? gotta call Elves on that -- nm
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Beaker
Aug 21, 08:56
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Um, law school is three years, med school is four. Neither group practices the actual work at first. So by the 5th reunion
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loosilu
Aug 21, 08:58
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yes but you go to college/University before that in preparation for law/med/CPA etc schooling -- nm
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Beaker
Aug 21, 09:06
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which also
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loosilu
Aug 21, 09:09
so 4 years at college, then 3-4 years of more schoolinga nd they couldn;t figure it out? -- nm
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Beaker
Aug 21, 09:08
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this may come
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loosilu
Aug 21, 09:10
As Beaker said, the dumb ones. -- nm
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Spawn
Aug 21, 09:00
the dumb ones? -- nm
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Beaker
Aug 21, 08:47
Or they just want it, could be that too. -- nm
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Subversive
Aug 21, 08:42
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hence why I said "in many cases"
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znufrii
Aug 21, 08:43
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