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In response to
"I've been sitting here, thinking for a couple hours now, about something my friend Tony and Mrs. Havens said yesterday"
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Mr. Havens
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I don't believe either can live up to their stated changes. I believe Obama's less likely to do so
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becuase I don't see a new way of doing things being feasible in the swamp of DC we currently have.
I believe McCain's got a better chance, he's proven he'll do things that at least attempt to reform things (McCain-Feingold for instance).
We didn't get to where we are now in just 8-16 years. We won't get out of it by 2012, either way. My feeling is, as long as the American people en masse keep being sheep, swallowing the hate and bile both the Dems and GOP spew forth about the other; until we stop sending 95% of these assholes back every 2 years (in bad years for incumbents)...nothing will change except the face of the person in charge of fucking us up.
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