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So, what don't we like about the GOP response/plan? I.e.,..

Posted by Dr.Vermin (aka Dr.Vermin) Sep 10 '09, 12:10

Let's start with passing the stuff that could to into effect (and start :

1. Make insurance co.s accept pre-existing conditions.
2. Let them sell across state lines.
3. Start experimenting with tort reform.
4. Give individuals the same tax benefits as employers.
5. Require proof of citizenship.

These could all be implemented immediately (instead of four years off), and would cause (IMO) insurance rates to drop dramatically, allowing more of the uninsured to be covered, either individually or by employers.

THEN the gov't can start trimming all the waste and fraud out of Medicare that Obama says is easy enough to do, and gradually expand it (as it gets cleaned up) to cover everybody that can't afford private insurance.

Responses:

1,2,3 and 5, everybody could agree on those, or at worst be indifferent about their implementation. - Loyola Sep 10, 12:38
Not bad on their own, with the possible exception of tort reform. - con_carne Sep 10, 12:18 19
- honestly, if republicans want tort reform (which they have for a decade) why cannot they compromise - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:20 18
  - Silly, because the public option is pure concentrated evil -- nm - con_carne Sep 10, 12:26 1
    - no, that's my argument against ass-reaming uninsured healthcare patients with direct costs, driving them to bankruptcy. - Beryllium Sep 10, 12:28
  - If only the GOP had been in control of the House and Senate for some time in the past decade to pass that. - BB Sep 10, 12:24 1
    - they tried, but couldnt get enough votes in the senate to block a fillibuster on it. -- nm - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:28
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    - Higher malpractice rates for insurance has absolutely nothing to do with ins companies playing the market and losing. - BB Sep 10, 12:25
    - yes. plus defensive medicine where doctors feel pressured to order additional unnecessary services to protect against litigation. -- nm - TFox Sep 10, 12:24 11
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        no. and the indication last night was that it would not be widespread, but on a state-by-state demo level. - TFox Sep 10, 12:28 6
        
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        It was an authorization of CMS to build demonstration programs around it, for Medicare/Medicaid, I assume. - TFox Sep 10, 12:33
        
        here is one case study, from right here. -- nm - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:29 3
        
        sfek, sorry. - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:30 2
        
        the cases brought against Kansas ERs grew exponentially? i don't fully follow. sorry. -- nm - TFox Sep 10, 12:31 1
        
        no, the ERs in kansas hospital increased in size/staff while those in missouri - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:33
        
        no, but the argument before now has been to cap the amount of damages which can be awarded for most malpractive suits. - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:28
        
        I think it's mostly in the form of capped damages. -- nm - pmb Sep 10, 12:27 1
        
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I thought 1, 3, and 5 were in the speech last night, basically. - TFox Sep 10, 12:18
my only question about the selling across state lines, does that mean that the US Government will now have to regulate health insurance - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:16 3
- i have no problem with requiring them to cover pre-existing conditions, nor do I have a problem with making - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:18 1
  - I think that's what they mean, yes. - Dr.Vermin Sep 10, 12:21
- basically, yes. -- nm - TFox Sep 10, 12:18
is this different than the GOP response from last night? - tRuMaN Sep 10, 12:15 2
- LIE! -- nm - BB Sep 10, 12:17
- *I'm* asking the questions here, pal. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 10, 12:16
I apologize for that mangled 1st sentence of my IM. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 10, 12:11

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