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In response to
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I think you are assuming both of these things.
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by
ty97
I am fairly certain Walmart doesn't let it's employees steal. I'd be willing to bet at least $2 on it. -- nm
Posted by
TFox
Sep 15 '09, 07:18
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Responses:
I figure you're right. I also figure ACORN HQ doesn't allow employees to give out tax evasion advice.
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ty97
Sep 15, 07:22
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Of course, the difference is, do they have any apparatus in place to investigate/eliminate this behavior?
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Will Hunting
Sep 15, 07:23
9
well, wouldnt this be answered by an audit report? -- nm
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tRuMaN
Sep 15, 07:29
2
What audit will tell you ACORN's offering advice on setting up illegal activities?
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Will Hunting
Sep 15, 07:32
1
any audit which includes federal funds will include a report on internal controls over programs -- nm
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tRuMaN
Sep 15, 08:09
I really don't think we can say it's seemingly no without more information.
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ty97
Sep 15, 07:26
5
These 3 incidents are enough for me to be quite happy they can't draw a dime of federal money.
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Will Hunting
Sep 15, 07:28
4
If these were finance folks, skirting the law to hit their profit and sales targets, we'd have the whole company facing the wall right now.
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TFox
Sep 15, 07:29
3
the voter registration thing is a separate issue, but I would note that they're not allowed to not submit any registration forms, for very good reason
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Reagen
Sep 15, 07:34
1
and they've gotten kicked off of helping out with the 2010 Census to boot -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 15, 07:34
actually, we'd probably be heralding their success as a harbinger of an economic turn-around until it all falls to pieces years down the road. -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 15, 07:31
I don't do wrong. Not my thing. -- nm
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TFox
Sep 15, 07:23
and I'm pretty sure Target doesn't use entrapment to get Walmart employees to steal, either. -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 15, 07:21
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If only the two issues were equivalent. My main issue with ty's comparison is they're not. -- nm
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Will Hunting
Sep 15, 07:29
nah, the ACORN employees are guilty as sin of what they did. No defending them. -- nm
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ty97
Sep 15, 07:23
when you were small, did you put Hershey's syrup in your glasses of wrong, so later in life you would find it more delicious? -- nm
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TFox
Sep 15, 07:22
13
you mean there *is* a giant Target conspiracy against Walmart? -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 15, 07:23
12
Have you ever seen ads looking for 'secret shoppers'? That's basically what the media people did here, it sounds like.
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Beryllium Dawn
Sep 15, 07:31
11
I got the impression from the article that it was conservative activists, not the media, that were involved in this.
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znufrii
Sep 15, 07:33
9
It sounded to me like Conservative Michael Moores. It doesn't change what the employees did. -- nm
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ty97
Sep 15, 07:36
5
and I'm not judging what the employees did, one way or another. -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 15, 07:38
4
You should be. -- nm
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Ender
Sep 15, 08:11
3
why? -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 15, 08:15
2
Because even if you don't think it was an institutional problem, what those employees did was absolutely wrong. -- nm
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Ender
Sep 15, 08:19
1
sure, but how exactly is that point relevant to any of the arguments I was making? -- nm
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znufrii
Sep 15, 08:24
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yeah, because Senators are known for weighing and judging all the facts of a case before making a decision. *snort*
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znufrii
Sep 15, 07:37
1
It was a pretty deserved punishment. 1 incident = isolated... 2 = sketchy...3 = a systemic problem.
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Will Hunting
Sep 15, 07:40
Except the Secret Shoppers aren't buying heroin or crack. -- nm
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Will Hunting
Sep 15, 07:33
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