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A pretty solid summary of the contents of the Baucus health bill. -- (link)

Posted by TFox Sep 16 '09, 16:45

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At first readthrough, I don't find a lot in here that gets me up in arms. There is stuff to nitpick, but unquestionably would move healthcare in the right direction. (www.time.com)

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not at all in favor of penalizing people for not having insurance. -- nm - the liioulu with cake Sep 16, 17:23 14
- i have mixed feelings about it -- nm - Guy Sep 16, 17:54
- are you in favor of denying them medical services then? -- nm - stewie Sep 16, 17:24 12
  - Why? If someone can't afford insurance how will they afford the fine? -- nm - the liioulu with cake Sep 16, 17:41 11
    - that language is in the bill for people that just choose not to get insurance because they are invincible, those that can't afford it are subsidized - stewie Sep 16, 17:49 2
      - Not necessarily. - the liioulu with cake Sep 16, 17:51
      - *they're -- nm - stewie Sep 16, 17:49
    - If they can't afford it, they don't pay it. There are subsidies. - TFox Sep 16, 17:43 5
      - Actually there are already defintions of who can and can't according to Medicaid. -- nm - the liioulu with cake Sep 16, 17:47 4
        
        Yes I know. And I believe this expands them some. -- nm - TFox Sep 16, 17:52 3
        
        And as it is families have to decide from having jobs and paying the bills and starving and having insurance coverage. -- nm - the liioulu with cake Sep 16, 17:54 2
        
        That is Medicaid coverage. - the liioulu with cake Sep 16, 17:57
        
        There is no doubt that health coverage is expensive. I won't deny that for a second. -- nm - TFox Sep 16, 17:56
    - Debtors Prison. -- nm - BB Sep 16, 17:43 1
      - Hey, some employers are checking the credit ratings of applicants and if their credit is too f'ed up they aren't hired. - the liioulu with cake Sep 16, 17:49
probably about as good as we're gonna get this time around... - stewie Sep 16, 17:20
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Hmm ... so that's entirely about health insurance availability, not health care costs, right? -- nm - Beryllium Sep 16, 16:48 3
- Not entirely, and certainly not by demographic segment. They remove the ability to do anything that resembles medical underwriting today. - TFox Sep 16, 16:52 2
  - And if it's still 568/month (that's AFTER my employer kicks in) for just Crash and me, that bill is basically meaningless. - Trish Sep 16, 17:01 1
    - I think the unfortunate truth is, if the types of income numbers they are talking about expecting people to pitch in are around 13%... - TFox Sep 16, 17:04

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