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Ahhhh I see the new proposed health care bill continues the demonization of smokers...

Posted by Stephen (aka SCeire) Sep 16 '09, 21:02

1 1/2 times the premiums that other people pay? What about the other risk groups?

I know most will disagree but I find the signaling out of smokers outrageous

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And does this mean states will stop raising the taxes on cigarettes every time there's a budget shortfall, under the guise of smokers costing the more - Stephen Sep 16, 21:32 1
- either it's worth the additional costs for smokers to get whatever benefits they get from cigarettes or it isn't - farmer ted Sep 16, 21:34
I've had a question along those lines for a long time. - Trish Sep 16, 21:30 1
- Yes, to the second part of your last line. - Stephen Sep 16, 21:52
Altria (Phillip Morris) agrees with you. - BB Sep 16, 21:24
i gotta say i disagree as well -- nm - 'lia Sep 16, 21:20
Yeah, people who purposefully engage in actions that lead to cancer, lung disease, heart disease and who knows what else should definitely pay the - TWuG Sep 16, 21:16 9
- What about people who drink excessively, or do drugs, or are obese, etc etc - Stephen Sep 16, 21:24 8
  - ...drive too fast and too recklessly, participate in unsafe sex, voluntarily live in large metro areas with bad air, don't use sunscreen, ride bikes - Trish Sep 16, 21:40 4
    - I'll take High Risk groups that won't be charged 1 1/2 times the normal health insurance premium for $1,000 Alex! -- nm - Stephen Sep 16, 21:43
    - Oooh, fugu is on my bucket list -- nm - amoxy Sep 16, 21:41 2
      - Mine too. But I can't imagine being able to afford eating in a place that I would actually trust to do it right. -- nm - Stephen Sep 16, 21:45 1
        
        I've had it, it not that expensive. -- nm - Stacy Sep 16, 21:48
  - there is no positive to outweigh the negatives of smoking. - b! Sep 16, 21:33
  - Probably because it is demonized like you said, but it also causes - amoxy Sep 16, 21:32 1
    - oh, i meant to mention that im, too. -- nm - b! Sep 16, 21:35
you're right, i do disagree -- nm - GWAA Sep 16, 21:09
nothing else has a more deleterious effect on overall health than cigarettes, that i know of -- nm - farmer ted Sep 16, 21:05 6
- pot is more harmful on the body than cigarettes, 1 joint equals about 8 cigarettes so they say. On someone like my bro its even worse, he smokes both. -- nm - Stacy Sep 16, 21:42 3
  - that's not true. - b! Sep 16, 21:47 2
    - note: - b! Sep 16, 21:51 1
      - I gong by what the DARE program taught in schools, and my bro is extreme heavy use...lights up about every 2 to 4 hours. -- nm - Stacy Sep 16, 21:53
- *lights up... fills you full of lead* -- nm - Josey Wales Sep 16, 21:29
- Well.....meth. nm - ralph wiggum Sep 16, 21:24

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