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In response to "ripped off a number of other people. Also suffers from Oliver Stone syndrome -- take an idea and present it as fact. -- nm" by loosilu

I didn't have a problem with any of his ideas being expressly derivative. Meanwhile, National Treasure ripped him off to a The Mentalist degree. -- nm

Posted by David (aka David) Sep 17 '09, 19:00

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James Rollins "Map of Bones" was a much better book covering similar themes...and I liked Da Vinci. Not great, but decent read. -- nm - Remlik Sep 17, 19:07 11
- It came out two years later, so it's in the National Treasure grouping of imitators. -- nm - David Sep 17, 19:11 10
  - without knowing anything about these books, I don't have a problem with imitation if the thought process is - Reagen Sep 17, 19:17 8
    - Yes, I generally agree with that. I often wonder if Joss Whedon looks at Twilight fans and wonders, "Where the fuck were you at the start of the 2000s - David Sep 17, 19:18 7
      - Him and the Moonlight people as well. But Whedon did get 7 years of one and 5 years of another so he had a good run. -- nm - Remlik Sep 17, 19:20 6
        
        Relatively speaking, Whedon's success is a 100 yard dash while she's ran all the way around the world. Twice. -- nm - David Sep 17, 19:21 5
        
        true. very true. I wonder if all of this stuff has made Gellar or Boreanz think about the movie possibilites. -- nm - Remlik Sep 17, 19:22 4
        
        It wouldn't sell. For whatever reason, the insipid version is more universal. -- nm - David Sep 17, 19:29 1
        
        (Much like The Beatles and Star Wars.) - David Sep 17, 19:30
        
        I think Boreanaz has reached the point of not being able to look like he's not aging. - Reagen Sep 17, 19:26 1
        
        true. -- nm - Remlik Sep 17, 19:29
  - good point. -- nm - Remlik Sep 17, 19:16
From what I can tell, National Treasure owns its ridiculousness. -- nm - Reagen Sep 17, 19:03 2
- Relatedly, I saw a magazine ad the other day for a book that was so clearly trying to be Da Vinci Code meets Twilight. - David Sep 17, 19:06 1
  - I saw my first ad for The Vampire Diaries tonight. Was the thought process "Hey, I'm a shitty writer, and I like vampires too!" -- nm - Reagen Sep 17, 19:07

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