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72 hours for the GOP to stoke populist outrage by spreaduing more false information about the bill's contents?

Posted by znufrii Sep 23 '09, 11:01

I can't imagine how Democrats would see the downside in that.

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So you're actually ok with not knowing what's in the bill before the vote? - Stephen Sep 23, 11:09 12
- You were real worried about this when the Patriot Act was up for a vote. - BB Sep 23, 11:14 1
  - I certainly didn't advocate hiding the details of the bill before a vote. - Stephen Sep 23, 11:21
- personally, yes. I have neither the time nor inclination to read the bill before they vote. - znufrii Sep 23, 11:12 9
  - at least the option of transparency is a good thing, imo. -- nm - b. Sep 23, 11:20
  - I think the campaign promise was a noble, and worthwhile promise. - Loyola Sep 23, 11:14 7
    - pity indeed, but again, that's not what we're talking about ere at all. -- nm - znufrii Sep 23, 11:15 6
      - If you think it's a pity, would it be fair to say you disagree with a Dem vote not to make them public? Irrespective of whether or not you personally - Loyola Sep 23, 11:20 5
        
        we're talking about two different points of the process here. -- nm - znufrii Sep 23, 11:22 4
        
        It was a simple question. -- nm - Loyola Sep 23, 11:23 3
        
        then the answer to your question is "no", for the reason I just gave. -- nm - znufrii Sep 23, 11:24 2
        
        It's a pity it's not being implemented, but you agree with the vote. Thanks. -- nm - Loyola Sep 23, 11:25 1
        
        correct. - znufrii Sep 23, 11:26
Wouldn't publicizing the *actual* information be a way to combat false information? -- nm - Dr.Vermin Sep 23, 11:08 5
- how many people would actually read it, instead of just believing whatever the media says about it? -- nm - znufrii Sep 23, 11:09 3
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    - well, at least they have assistants to do it for them. I don't have that luxury. - znufrii Sep 23, 11:15
  - Why not find out? - Dr.Vermin Sep 23, 11:11
- YOU LIE! -- nm - Redmond Sep 23, 11:09
Relatedly... "We still don't understand how fringe conservatism went mainstream." -- (link) - Don Homer Sep 23, 11:02 13
- Glenn Grenwald had some interesting insights on this issue -- (link) - znufrii Sep 23, 11:07 12
  - holy crap, those are rapidly becoming my least favorite two words on ST. -- nm - TFox Sep 23, 11:08 11
    - you don't like it? dont' read it. - znufrii Sep 23, 11:16 1
      - ok -- nm - TFox Sep 23, 11:17
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      - I actually pronounce it in my head "Wenb Weengwaowd". - TFox Sep 23, 11:13 7
        
        We get it. You hate znufrii, so why don't you stop responding to his posts. - Don Homer Sep 23, 11:14 5
        
        i'm very sorry it bothers you. and i don't hate z. he just frustrates me sometimes. - TFox Sep 23, 11:15 4
        
        you're currently at the top of my list of people I want to punch in the face, so... - znufrii Sep 23, 11:17 3
        
        if that's the prerequisite we need to get by to just enjoy a good beer, so be it. -- nm - TFox Sep 23, 11:18 2
        
        you should take it as a compliment. :) - znufrii Sep 23, 11:21 1
        
        as should you take most of my frustration as a compliment. - TFox Sep 23, 11:25
        
        *snort* -- nm - Stephen Sep 23, 11:14

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