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In response to "Vermin it's not that you can't marry a guy. It's that you *can* marry somebody you're in love with and sexually attracted to. Gay people can't. -- nm" by mara

To the best of my knowledge I have the same stance on this as McCain, Obama, Biden and Palin.

Posted by Loyola Nov 11 '08, 14:17

Anti gay marriage, pro civil unions.

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I'm actually anti-marriage (gay and straight) and pro civil unions. - celedhrymandias Nov 11, 14:22
This is one of Obama/Biden's biggest failings, imo. (nm) - musubi Nov 11, 14:21 5
- nah, they'd be handing McCain a win if they supported gay marriage. - ty97 Nov 11, 14:25
- Agreed. I'm very disappointed in Obama's stance on gay marriage. -- nm - TWuG Nov 11, 14:25
- I think they just played it safe for the election. -- nm - celedhrymandias Nov 11, 14:24 2
  - Probably, but it's still a failing. (nm) - musubi Nov 11, 14:27 1
    - But one I can understand if it gives him 4-8 years to try to steer this country in a direction where a future candidate can be open over it. -- nm - celedhrymandias Nov 11, 14:29
"...in an Obama-Biden administration, there will be absolutely no distinction from a constitutional standpoint or a legal standpoint..." - Vice President Elect Joe Biden Nov 11, 14:20
What's the difference? -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 11, 14:19 14
- If I may jump in, I think it makes a certain amount of sense, IF marriage is a religious union. we can't tell churches who they are allowed to marry. - loosilu Nov 11, 14:22 6
  - marriage has a government aspect and, if one chooses, a religious aspect. The legal fight ongoing is for legal recognition. - ty97 Nov 11, 14:29
  - and, as i've said, you can't be *married* without a government issued license, so, it's really NOT a religious act in this day and age. - Andie Remembers Nov 11, 14:26 4
    - Yes, you can. I have no government issued marriage license. Publication of banns. -- nm - VMan Nov 11, 14:30 1
      - you have no marriage license? what do you use to prove that you are, you know, married? -- nm - Andie Remembers Nov 11, 14:32
    - Also consider the concept of marriage pre-dates most religions -- nm - Mr. Havens Nov 11, 14:30 1
      - essentially it was a business arrangement, an exchange of property, if you will... - znufrii Nov 11, 14:33
- Ask me tomorrow, I'll have more time to get into it. -- nm - Loyola Nov 11, 14:20
- it feels less icky if you call it something different. -- nm - mafic Nov 11, 14:20
- semantics -- nm - Dano Nov 11, 14:19 4
  - Which is why I'm now in favor of the idea that the government should not do marriages for anyone, only civil unions. -- nm - Dano Nov 11, 14:22 3
    - incorporated coupleships -- nm - Max Nov 11, 14:24 2
      - BFFs -- nm - Dano Nov 11, 14:26 1
        
        bf*FL* -- nm - Loyola si Nov 11, 14:27
akimbo? -- nm - Dano Nov 11, 14:19
Then you need to support the outlawing of divorce, which also destroys the sanctity of marriage -- nm - Mr. Havens Nov 11, 14:18 10
- I do. Voted against divorce in a referendum here. -- nm - Loyola Nov 11, 14:19 9
  - *golf clap* -- nm - Ender Nov 11, 14:24
  - What referendum is that? When? - musubi Nov 11, 14:23 2
    - Ireland, not sure what year. Actually I may have been 17, but I'm against it anyway. -- nm - Loyola Nov 11, 14:28
    - i thought Loyola was Irish? -- nm - Andie Remembers Nov 11, 14:25
  - are you serious? really? - Andie Remembers Nov 11, 14:20 1
    - Yeah. -- nm - Loyola Nov 11, 14:29
  - wow. under any circumstances? -- nm - loosilu Nov 11, 14:20 1
    - In an abusive relationship, under a Catholic marriage anyway, I'm not against annulments. -- nm - Loyola Nov 11, 14:30
  - yowza! -- nm - kare Nov 11, 14:19

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To the best of my knowledge I have the same stance on this as McCain, Obama, Biden and Palin.

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