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I hope this chart comes out OK. Here's my information on what different services refer to as "HD" on the web (not of it is technically HD).

Posted by Mop (231 lbs) (aka rburriel) Oct 13 '09, 14:14

(You can trust me. I'm a professional.)

Source Codec Resolution Video Bitrate Audio Bitrate
Hulu On2 Flash VP6 1280x720 480kbps, 700kbps, 1000kbps, 2.5Mbps
Xbox Live (before Spring 2007) VC-1 1280x720 6.8Mbps
Xbox Live (after Spring 2007) H.264, MPEG-4 Part 2 1280x720 15Mbps (H.264), 8Mbps (MPEG-4 Part 2)
iTunes QuickTime/H.264 1280x720 4Mbps
Vimeo H.264 1280x720 5000kbps 320kbps
YouTube H.264, Sorenson 1280x720 2000kbps 256kbps
Amazon VOD ("Unbox") VC-1 1280x720 2.5Mbps

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Any idea on Netflix streaming? -- nm - psilotum Oct 13, 14:29 6
- I should add that to the list. Sorry for the ommission. -- nm - Mop (231 lbs) Oct 13, 14:34
- 2600kbps or 3800kbps for the Silverlight player -- (link) - oblique Oct 13, 14:31 4
  - Thanks. So is that Silverlight a standalone player? I enjoy using my WMC remote to access Netflix. -- nm - psilotum Oct 13, 14:33 3
    - I believe the WMC player is the Sliverlight player. They've pretty much moved to it across the board now for PC based streaming -- nm - oblique Oct 13, 14:35 2
      - True. This is a bit of dumbing down, but the old WMV is the new Silverlight. WMP plays Silverlight thus the player in WMC plays Silverlight. -- nm - Mop (231 lbs) Oct 13, 14:47
      - Cool. Now I see that post is about a year old. -- nm - psilotum Oct 13, 14:39
What I'm trying to understand is the statement that true technical HD is 135 Mbps -- nm - Guigue Oct 13, 14:17 12
- That's only for 720p. For 1080p, it's 237 Mbps. A Blu-ray disc can hold 35 Gb of data, but still only holds 3 hours of video. - Mop (231 lbs) Oct 13, 14:33
- Raw video is very large. I don't know if it's that large, but it's very large. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 13, 14:18 10
  - No consumer service is ever going to deliver uncompressed video -- nm - oblique Oct 13, 14:21 8
    - What's that, Bill Gates? - Mop (231 lbs) Oct 13, 14:33 5
      - But you're talking decades probably -- nm - oblique Oct 13, 14:34 4
        
        Moore's Law. 5 years and I bet we get uncompressed 4k. - Mop (231 lbs) Oct 13, 14:40 3
        
        *stares at is 1.5Mbps DSL* - oblique Oct 13, 14:41 2
        
        Fiber-to-the-home (although copper ain't dead yet...) -- (link) - Mop (231 lbs) Oct 13, 14:46 1
        
        2006...I'm still waiting -- nm - oblique Oct 13, 14:47
    - well duh. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 13, 14:21 1
      - Just makes it a weird number to bring up when discussing the technicalities of HD delivery -- nm - oblique Oct 13, 14:21
  - Oh I know, I work with uncompressed 10 bit HD all day long (4.3 GB for a 30 second ad with sound) - Guigue Oct 13, 14:20
ironically, at home, hulu will stream hd to my xbox, but not to my old computer - tRuMaN Oct 13, 14:15
The funny thing is that VC-1 is the Windows Media codec. Xbox dropped VC-1 in the Spring 2007 update. *gasp* What? No synergy at Microsoft? -- nm - Mop (231 lbs) Oct 13, 14:15

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I hope this chart comes out OK. Here's my information on what different services refer to as "HD" on the web (not of it is technically HD).

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