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In response to "Multiple respected baseball people at websites like Fangraphs and Baseball Prospectus came to the same conslusion independently." by musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight

he also said RBI's aren't important -- nm

Posted by CQ (aka CQ) Oct 23 '09, 11:02

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They're not. Once again, Theo is smart. (nm) - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:03 14
- this is beyond the pale -- nm - crash davis Oct 23, 11:05 13
  - Consider this: Jeff Francouer had 71 RBIs last year. - David Oct 23, 11:07 3
    - yeah, but that gap between 71 RBIs and 108 RBIs is important, it tells you something right there -- nm - crash davis Oct 23, 11:10 2
      - Only when placed in that context. Otherwise, you just hear "71 RBIs" and think he was rather productive. -- nm - David Oct 23, 11:12 1
        
        I think 100+ is great, 90 is productive, 80 okay, 70 is a second baseman -- nm - crash davis Oct 23, 11:13
  - See TFox for context. It's true. RBI's are nice, but they're not important. - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:06 8
    - how about batting avg. with runners on base? is that important? - crash davis Oct 23, 11:08 7
      - Way more important than RBI's but still pretty random. - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:11
      - OPS is the one true stat, Crash. Learn to love it. -- nm - David Oct 23, 11:11 5
        
        OPS is still flawed. It's the best shorthand stat, but weighted on-base average is a better all-in-one offensive stat, imo. (nm) - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:13
        
        tell moose that, and then tell him that players with a certain career OPS level should be in the hall of fame -- nm - crash davis Oct 23, 11:12 3
        
        How am I going to reason with Moose? Did you see the ARod nonsense last night? And now he's talking up JD Drew, for God's sake. -- nm - David Oct 23, 11:19 1
        
        no, I didn't see anything about ARod -- nm - crash davis Oct 23, 11:20
        
        Nah, OPS only considers offense and isn't league-context dependent. (nm) - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:17
I'm going to need some context on that one -- nm - crash davis Oct 23, 11:03 6
- important to the team, not important in evaluating an individual player. -- nm - TFox Oct 23, 11:04 5
  - RBIs are relatively random. JD Drew's failings as a massively overpaid player are not. - David Oct 23, 11:06 3
    - JD Drew is at worst marginally overpaid. - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:08 2
      - You're so cute. Tell me the part about Alex Rios again! -- nm - David Oct 23, 11:10 1
        
        He was a good gamble that Kenny Williams lost. *shrug* - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:14
  - exactly, it's all part of a team concept. It's still funny though -- nm - CQ Oct 23, 11:04
that part I agree with, and I don't know if you heard Schilling call in later to say he agreed with that part. - TFox Oct 23, 11:03 2
- of course Schilling would say that, using RBIs as part of his plan would mean he is conceding the point that people will get on base - crash davis Oct 23, 11:04 1
  - You are crazy. RBI's are a function of players getting on base infront of a hitter. - musubiafraidofthingsthatgobumpinthenight Oct 23, 11:09

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