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Posted by ty97 Nov 4 '09, 07:29

I don't believe he agrees with Maine on the issue. I DO whole-heartedly believe he ranks his 2012 re-election campaign above gay marriage rights. We're convenient to him, but he's not willing to take any risks for us.

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He's not going to ger re-elected if he continues to not do anything significant on the 'hot-button' issues. -- nm - JaxSean Nov 4, 07:32 3
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  - Red meat! -- nm - con_carne Nov 4, 08:01
  - The voice of apathy is powerful, yet subtle. Like Richard Simmons with duct tape over his mouth, wearing a business suit. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 4, 07:39
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- With respect, how often do politicians need to say one thing and mean another until you get the point? - ty97 Nov 4, 07:33 6
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    - This feels like territory we have discussed (ad naseum) previously. - ty97 Nov 4, 07:40 4
      - The thing that goes against your idea is that Obama did stick his neck out for an unpopular idea. - Inigo Nov 4, 07:49 3
        
        The vast majority of people want healthcare reformed. - ty97 Nov 4, 07:53 2
        
        That's not at all what I'm saying. - Inigo Nov 4, 08:00
        
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  - I think ML is talking about Obama's campaign promises for gay rights issues. -- nm - Inigo Nov 4, 07:34 14
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        Did you both have lost bets where you'd have to agree with one another? -- nm - Inigo Nov 4, 07:45 1
        
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        I'm agreeing with z, ML and Dawson are agreeing... fuck this. - TFox Nov 4, 07:45 7
        
        I can't wait till Znu starts talking about the glory of the Yankees. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:46 6
        
        (he's a sox fan, he can't possibly... wait, he can.) - TFox Nov 4, 07:48 2
        
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        Personally, I think I'd have you defending ARod. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:49
        
        yes. -- nm - TFox Nov 4, 07:47 2
        
        How about Znu si? -- nm - amoxy Nov 4, 07:47 1
        
        heh -- nm - Beaker Nov 4, 07:48
- Agreed. He has stated this multiple times. But I also agree he totally only cares about 2012 then he can worry about other issues. -- nm - MDH Nov 4, 07:32
- "I do not support gay marriage" is a lot different than saying he supports it being taken away. -- nm - znufrii Nov 4, 07:32 2
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    - I bet he's eating his keyboard after reading that. -- nm - Inigo Nov 4, 07:35
- if the political climate were different, do you think he would continue to not support gay marriage? i extremely vehemently don't. -- nm - TFox Nov 4, 07:32 7
  - I think if the climate was different, he'd be leading the cause, only becuase there'd be popular votes in support of it but still oppose it personaly. - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:40 5
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      - I think it's still grey-area enough that he's not ready to commit. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:45 3
        
        But he could win the popular vote! - ty97 Nov 4, 07:45 2
        
        Still a turnout battle.....and the conservatives have proven time and time again, they come out to vote strongly. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 4, 07:51
        
        If everyone in the popular vote bothers to turn out. -- nm - Roger More Nov 4, 07:46
  - I posted a day or two ago: He has adopted a position meant to anger as few people as possible and has succeeded in please no one. - TWuG Nov 4, 07:35
^5 -- nm - TFox Nov 4, 07:30

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