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In response to "The ending of that game was everything that is great about football." by David

100% disagree with you that, that was the right call. No other coach calls that at their own 30. -- nm

Posted by Redmond (aka redmond) Nov 15 '09, 20:52

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Switzer did that against the Eagles once...Same outcome -- nm - amoxy Nov 15, 21:05 1
- I can't believe I'm saying this, but that was even worse. - Jelly Nov 15, 21:07
And that is exactly why he is a HoF coach. He worries about winning rather than getting second guessed. - David Nov 15, 20:55 41
- This is true - if they convert there, he finished the game that his team couldn't. - Jelly Nov 15, 20:56
- Well tonight he's a losing coach. Also he's an idiot. -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 20:56 39
  - He lost tonight but that is because a player didn't catch the ball. He has championships because he makes choices that brave. -- nm - David Nov 15, 20:59 37
    - I don't think it was a brave choice. At best I would call it a desperate choice. At worst I would say an extreme lapse in judgement. - Redmond Nov 15, 21:00 36
      - I saw it as the decision of a coach who knew his defense was done for the night. - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:08 22
        
        His defense was only done when the Pats didn't convert. - Jelly Nov 15, 21:11
        
        Well if his defense was done, they sure didn't need Peyton on their own 30. LOL I love this debate. - Redmond Nov 15, 21:10 20
        
        I'm saying that it didn't matter if they stuck them inside the 20. - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:13 18
        
        So punting = guaranteed TD? -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 21:15 17
        
        Seriously, did you watch the drive before? - David Nov 15, 21:19 8
        
        I saw the drive after too. Was a pretty quick one, because they started on the Pats 30. -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 21:21 7
        
        Exactly the point that destroys your argument. Ball position was irrelevant. NE was toast on defense. -- nm - David Nov 15, 21:23 6
        
        i will say: the Colts showed total disregard for the Pats' ability to stop them at the end. - TFox Nov 15, 21:25 1
        
        That's probably because the Pats lacked that ability. - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:26
        
        There is a thing called a clock. BTW was Peyton 100% accurate on that drive? No misses, or drops? -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 21:24 3
        
        One incompletion after the INT. - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:32 2
        
        You are right. Bill made the right call. Did they win now that I agree? -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 21:33 1
        
        Of course I'm right. Yes, he did. No, because football isn't chess. - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:45
        
        against peyton manning? - baldrick Nov 15, 21:16 7
        
        So those 5 punts in the first half by Indy was because he was lulling them into a false sense of security? - Redmond Nov 15, 21:18 6
        
        80 yards in 90 seconds. Nice try on the selective memory, though. -- nm - David Nov 15, 21:20 4
        
        Stop being biased because we disagree on another point. He is saying by the fact that he is Peyton Manning the game is over. - Redmond Nov 15, 21:23 3
        
        To be fair, I would say the same thing about Brady. - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:38
        
        you're making the point. any other QB in the world and Belichick punts in that situation -- nm - baldrick Nov 15, 21:28 1
        
        Uh, he should have still punted so yeah. He should have punted if that was Joe Montana. -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 21:30
        
        first half is bygones. maybe the only QB better at driving the field for a win in the last two minutes is Brady himself -- nm - baldrick Nov 15, 21:20
        
        Being at the other 20 hadn't helped them any two minutes prior. I think BB was paying closer attention to that than you were. - David Nov 15, 21:13
      - It was a winning call and the right play. Had the guy not muffed it, you aren't saying a word right now. - David Nov 15, 21:03 10
        
        I would still say it was the wrong call and he got lucky if it worked. But we can agree to disagree. - Redmond Nov 15, 21:07 9
        
        Whereas most everyone else would be saying it was a bold call, and the reason he has those rings. - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:10 8
        
        It was a bold call, but I guarantee that even Bill will admit that there was a sequence of poorly executed plays down the stretch that hurt. - TFox Nov 15, 21:13
        
        "I like it when a coach makes a bold move to win a game instead of a conservative play to not lose a game." He made a bold move that lost the game. - Redmond Nov 15, 21:13 6
        
        "...to win the game." Not "...that won the game." - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:21
        
        But of course we will. Because it didn't work. Not saying it was brilliant, but the fact that 99% of people will call that dumb when it doesn't work - TFox Nov 15, 21:15 4
        
        C'mon people, there was an entire episode of Sports Night about this very thing! - the wrong element, bad guy Nov 15, 21:25
        
        I posted this before the snap of the ball. Because I felt there was no way he does something that stupid. -- (link) - Redmond Nov 15, 21:19 [Backboard] 2
        
        And then you hedged your bets, saying he had balls, and not that he was dumb. -- nm - TFox Nov 15, 21:19 1
        
        My definition of having balls isn't that you are smart. I could go punch a MMA fighter because I have balls but I still get my assed kicked after I - Redmond Nov 15, 21:26
      - It was completely his Ego getting the best of him -- nm - GWAA Nov 15, 21:02 1
        
        Like I said, I have no clue why he did it. It was just a shock when that ball snapped. -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 21:03
  - To clarify. He's an idiot tonight. -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 20:57
if I am up by 10, I might make that call. but when I am up by 7 or less, no way do I make that call. -- nm - Truman Nov 15, 20:53 4
- Sure up by 2 scores, you can take that risk. -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 20:53 3
  - "risk" (two scores, we're not even discussing this game.) -- nm - TFox Nov 15, 20:54
  - I still wouldn't but at least you have more room for error. -- nm - Redmond Nov 15, 20:53 1
    - Unless maybe you have running backs - eag Nov 15, 20:57

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