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and then there's Lobjan -- (link) - znufrii Nov 19, 11:02 1
- oiro'o bu'onai pei -- nm - Danedukenuuk Nov 19, 11:04
It would be nice if there was a universal language (or universal secondary language) that everyone knew ... but it won't be Klingon. :) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:57 26
- It'll be that mix of English and Mandarin that they speak on Firefly. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Nov 19, 10:58 7
  - FIREFLY!! worst decision ever to cancel that show. -- nm - fedup Nov 19, 11:00 6
    - You are smart. -- nm - ST Nov 19, 11:01
    - dude - way to almost be universally accepted by this tribe ^5 -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 11:01 4
      - what else do i need to do? lol. -- nm - fedup Nov 19, 11:03 3
        
        BBJ's mom. (nm) - musubi Nov 19, 11:06
        
        be Switzerland until you get the lay of the land - ie. stay neutral in case of war - doesn't happen often though :) -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 11:05 1
        
        thanks for the advice! :) -- nm - fedup Nov 19, 11:08
- Windows. -- nm - Shaun Nov 19, 10:58
- hi! I already exist. -- nm - English Nov 19, 10:58 15
  - actually, more people speak Mandarin - zork Nov 19, 10:59 14
    - if we all had to speak Mandarin, I might end it all right now. -- nm - TFox Nov 19, 11:02
    - FYI, in Hong Kong, we were taught English as 2nd language not Manarin -- nm - SyrDragon Nov 19, 11:02
    - but english is more unifying. more countries teach english in schools in addition to their native languages. -- nm - fedup Nov 19, 11:01 4
      - if more people speak mandarin, it makes more sense for the rest of us to learn that. - Elf Andie Nov 19, 11:02 3
        
        but their government by and large doesn't allow them to communicate with outsiders anyway -- nm - Dano Nov 19, 11:03
        
        I would think it would be more important about the vastness of the spread of the language -- nm - Beaker Nov 19, 11:02
        
        well, it's not so much about numbers as where those people are. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 11:02
    - in a couple countries. English is worldwife prtty much. -- nm - Beaker Nov 19, 11:00 1
      - and becoming more so all the time thanks to the Internet. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 11:02
    - English is by far the most common second language. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 11:00 4
      - movies, music, games and application :) - Danedukenuuk Nov 19, 11:02
      - you stole my IM! -- nm - zork Nov 19, 11:01 2
        
        I added "by far" -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 11:01 1
        
        *rolls eyes* -- nm - zork Nov 19, 11:03
- Esperanto -- nm - Dano Nov 19, 10:58
"He almost caught it and ran into the net with it." - Loyola Nov 19, 10:57 3
- it was a ridiculous call. -- nm - Beaker Nov 19, 11:00
- so is that good Guinness or bad Guinness? -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 10:59 1
  - It was good, but ended up in a house party then just drinking vodka all night. I got home at half ten this morning. Not good. -- nm - Loyola Nov 19, 11:01
for our office thanksgiving lunch, somebody brought in a 5 lb apple pie from costco -- nm - prayformojo Nov 19, 10:56 1
- With how many gallons of topping? -- nm - MojaveMeg Nov 19, 10:58
kid/language thing? friend taught her son sign language - not because of any relative - just so he knew it - I thought it was neat - JenBro Nov 19, 10:55 15
- moose jr and mooselette both know a little bit of sign language. - musubi Nov 19, 11:05
- bah...that's just an invented laguage. Doesn't count. -- nm - Jim Nov 19, 10:56 2
  - like Braille -- nm - Beaker Nov 19, 11:01 1
    - that's a writing system/alphabet not a language -- nm - zork Nov 19, 11:02
- We're doing that with Lil' Vermin. It helps you communicate with them months before they learn to talk... - Dr.Vermin Nov 19, 10:56 5
  - her son is very bright - but she and her husband just have him and really parent well IMHO -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 10:58 2
    - Sounds like it! I didn't mean to imply otherwise. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Nov 19, 11:01 1
      - you didn't - I was just putting in a disclaimer that it may not be "only" the sign language that made him bright :) -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 11:03
  - Friends of ours have a 2-year old daughter in day care and they teach them sign language. Pretty neat I think. -- nm - Shaun Nov 19, 10:58 1
    - Yup, we found a daycare that teaches infants sign language as well. - Dr.Vermin Nov 19, 10:59
- It's been useful for people on NCIS (Abby's character was born to deaf parents, so she knows ASL) -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:56
- Not a real language, then. -- nm - Spawn Nov 19, 10:55 3
  - *signed to Logan that his dad is crazy* -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 11:00 2
    - I am just basing this on what I have learned from ST on this board. - Spawn Nov 19, 11:02 1
      - uhhhh ... wut? ( my post was not an angry post - just kidding - your nuts - not crazy ) - JenBro Nov 19, 11:07
this guy near me just said that he bought seasons 1-3 of I Dream Of Jeanie. The girl with him is about to hump him. I didn't realize that would be - fedup Nov 19, 10:51 8
- I got excited just reading this. -- nm - Spawn Nov 19, 10:55 2
  - how do you get Jeanie out of the bottle? -- nm - 6 Nov 19, 11:04
  - then she goes, "Do you like Bewitched, too? I used to watch this with my Grandma" - fedup Nov 19, 10:57
- Barbara Eden is one of those women that other women are attracted to -- nm - zork Nov 19, 10:54
- "as you wish, master" -- nm - giganto Nov 19, 10:52 3
  - they TOTALLY have the outfits and are going to act them out - then have sex. -- nm - Elf Andie Nov 19, 10:54 1
    - I had a hot girlfriend who made a genie costume for Hallowe'en from her bikini. I'll never get that image out of my mind. -- nm - zork Nov 19, 11:01
  - *blink* -- nm - fedup Nov 19, 10:53
*adds Subject Matter Expert to his resume* -- nm - Beaker Nov 19, 10:48
You know what I wish Outlook had...Smart Filters, like Excel for drilling down into folders. Like I could say "show me smart filters for categories" - The wraith of oblique Nov 19, 10:44 4
- apply categories and set the folder to group by category -- nm - zork Nov 19, 10:55
- So you don't like the Search Folders functionality? -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:46 1
  - I do, but I want it to be automatic so if I have a "Personal" folder, I can have it autocreate search folders under it by sender - The wraith of oblique Nov 19, 10:48
- send microsoft an email, maybe they will make a commercial out of it -- nm - tRuMaN Nov 19, 10:45
Huh? Just had a call from someone who saw my resume on the EDD website...didn't think anyone ever used that. - MojaveMeg Nov 19, 10:44 4
- You go girl! -- nm - Dano Nov 19, 10:53
- why is your resume on a site for Erectile Disfunction? - zork Nov 19, 10:51
- sweet - 'lia Nov 19, 10:49
- Good Luck ( on it being something you want and vice versa - ie. you being what they want ) -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 10:47
*looks around ST for his own Susie Pepper* -- nm - giganto Nov 19, 10:44
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- angry sex is good though -- nm - CQ Nov 19, 10:58
- "Not in the mood" is fine. Intentionally withholding sex as some sort of punishment is not. - ReluctantCynic Nov 19, 10:57
- specifics-dependent, I don't have a problem with the IM, but "I'm not sleeping with you until you [whatever]." is manipulative. -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 10:47 2
  - Exactly. The moment, can make sense. But forecasting? No. -- nm - Spawn Nov 19, 10:49 1
    - Unrelated: I saw Amy's doppleganger at Chipotle today -- nm - The wraith of oblique Nov 19, 10:49
- a violation of basic male rights - Danedukenuuk Nov 19, 10:45
- It's such a strange mindset to me. If they're willing to deny themselves sex in the process, what does it say about their attraction to you? - Max Nov 19, 10:45 1
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- If it's to get what you want, manipulation. If you don't feel like it, valid. -- nm - Roger More Nov 19, 10:44
- if you are pissed at someone, you probably really don't want to sleep with them. - Elf Andie Nov 19, 10:44 6
  - Are there no fans of angry sex on ST??? - Dr.Vermin Nov 19, 10:49 2
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    - it's better than the angry spank -- nm - znufrii Nov 19, 10:52
  - Yup, this is what I was trying to say. -- nm - JaxSean Nov 19, 10:47
  - okay, this makes sense. disregard my post. -- nm - Max Nov 19, 10:46
  - no kidding -- nm - 'lia Nov 19, 10:45
- I think it's stupid. With holding anything is childish. - sycor Nov 19, 10:44
- life's not fair - 'lia Nov 19, 10:44
- Usually you're mad at something the other person did anyway, so why would you want to have sex with them. -- nm - JaxSean Nov 19, 10:43 4
  - so you can have angry sex, d-uh. -- nm - Diva Nov 19, 10:45 3
    - with the doorman -- nm - 'lia Nov 19, 10:50
    - deeeevvvvsssss ^5 - JenBro Nov 19, 10:49 1
      - *giggle* -- nm - Diva Nov 19, 10:54
I plan on only speaking french to my hypothetical children when nobody else is around. - mafic Nov 19, 10:42 4
- my sibs and I had a period when we mixed them up. and why wouldn't you speak French to them all the time? my mom did. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:43 3
  - I find it impolite to speak languages others can't understand (obviously I'm talking people we know, not strangers). -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 10:45 2
    - I have no problem with that at all. I see people do it all the time, and it's better in terms of teaching the language. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:46 1
      - let me amend that ... I think it can be rude in some circumstances, but not in general. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:46
From what I remember from my linguistics classes - you can try and teach your kids whichever way you want, but it's their peer group that's going to - Reagen Nov 19, 10:42 1
- good point. immersion school/class is the best way. -- nm - zork Nov 19, 10:53
musubi *is* tupac -- nm - giganto Nov 19, 10:42 1
- they're doing awesome things with plastic surgery these days. -- nm - Reagen Nov 19, 10:43
dml. wendys, subway, or a chef salad from the store down the street. -- nm - tRuMaN Nov 19, 10:39 6
- Baconator because it's Thursday. -- nm - JaxSean Nov 19, 10:42
- I just went to Subway - wanted the kids meal with the free cool lunch bag but they don't have them yet :( -- nm - JenBro Nov 19, 10:41
- chef. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:41
- Im gonna vote for the salad from a local store -- nm - CQ Nov 19, 10:41
- Subway -- nm - SyrDragon Nov 19, 10:40
- yes -- nm - Danedukenuuk Nov 19, 10:40
Thanks for the outlet, ST. I love reading your responses, sarcasm and insights!! This is the perfect venue when you've got to tell *someone* - Banzai! Nov 19, 10:39 8
- my suggestion, start making snide comments about video games during meetings this person is present in. -- nm - tRuMaN Nov 19, 10:40 7
  - The tricky part is he and I report to the same person. She is out on maternity leave for 3 months, and now he is reporting to me as well our division - Banzai! Nov 19, 10:46 6
    - stuff like this is why i find it hard to shake my admittedly irrational bias against telecommuting. -- nm - TFox Nov 19, 11:01
    - Thanks for the responses below. I guess I do need to talk to him. Just need to figure out best approach, and how harsh/strict. {nm} - Banzai! Nov 19, 10:57
    - my response would be no more telecommuting for him. -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 10:55
    - Set the expectation that if his performance doesn't improve, he'll have to come back into the office and won't be allowed to telecommute anymore. - Cuzzin Todd Nov 19, 10:54
    - poor hard place. i didnt know that you and rock where gonna get it on on it. -- nm - tRuMaN Nov 19, 10:47
    - why don't you just talk to him? -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:47
the power of the ballad -- nm - giganto Nov 19, 10:38 5
- best line of the episode (spoiler) - Hotkiss Nov 19, 10:43
- Yes, male frogs are very strong -- nm - Jovian Nov 19, 10:40 3
  - gahhh! Messed up my own joke, should have been: Yes, male ducks are very strong. -- nm - Jovian Nov 19, 10:41 2
    - I... still don't get it -- nm - Roger More Nov 19, 10:43 1
      - Its what the dippy blonde on Glee answered when asked if she knew what a 'ballad' was. -- nm - Jovian Nov 19, 10:44
I don't care if you're a linguist, if you're speaking Klingon, you're a nerd. (nm) - musubi Nov 19, 10:38 34
- exactly. there's no reason you couldn't do the same experiment with a real language. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:42 27
  - klingon is a real language. just like esperanto. -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 10:43 25
    - bzzzt! they're both fake. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:44 24
      - they're invented languages, but can be used for communication. that makes them real, in my mind, if not particularly useful. -- nm - Reagen Nov 19, 10:47 23
        
        (Every language was fake at some point) -- nm - Reagen Nov 19, 10:47 22
        
        I wonder if Klingon is devoted more to abstract concepts than real objects, which might make it harder to pick up. -- nm - Max Nov 19, 10:48 2
        
        Because the Klingon race are such philosophers? -- nm - Roger More Nov 19, 10:53 1
        
        it's all honor, aggression, and big weiner talk. -- nm - Max Nov 19, 10:54
        
        totally disagree about this. and I consider those languages "not real" because they're imposed.. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:48 17
        
        Tell that to computers. -- nm - Spawn Nov 19, 10:54
        
        just because it's artificial doesn't mean it's not real. -- nm - znufrii Nov 19, 10:53 3
        
        for me, it is not about whether it was invented, but more about how it is used. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:54 2
        
        I have no problem with categorizing languages that way, I just think calling it "fake" is semantically imprecise is all - znufrii Nov 19, 10:57 1
        
        I am not a linguist, just trying to figure it out for myself. :) -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:59
        
        would you rephrase that in english? -- nm - Max Nov 19, 10:52
        
        I kind of look at it like - is a chair still a chair is no one's sitting in it? In the same way, Klingon is a language even if it's no one's mother - Reagen Nov 19, 10:51 10
        
        hmmmm, I dunno. True someone invented ASL but it certainly has turned into a mother tongue for many. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:53 9
        
        (There are a handful of native Esperanto speakers, BTW) -- nm - Reagen Nov 19, 10:55 4
        
        really? I didn't know that. -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:56 3
        
        there are esperanto conferences. I imagine occasionally people meet/get married/have kids from them, and might only have esperanto in common. -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 11:00
        
        It's George Soros's, of all people, mother tongue. -- nm - Reagen Nov 19, 11:00
        
        there are esperanto conferences. I imagine occasionally people meet/get married/have kids from them, and might only have esperanto in common. -- nm - mafic Nov 19, 11:00
        
        by this definition, Latin isn't a language anymore. -- nm - Reagen Nov 19, 10:54 3
        
        isn't it called a "dead" language? -- nm - loosilu Nov 19, 10:55
        
        well, it evolved into a handful of other languages ... -- nm - Beryllium Nov 19, 10:55 1
        
        Well someone at some time had to invent the words for Latin. It didn't just magically appear one day. -- nm - Shaun Nov 19, 10:56
        
        For sure. Someone had to make up the words at some point. -- nm - Shaun Nov 19, 10:48
  - Esperanto! -- nm - znufrii Nov 19, 10:43
- I'd like to do the same experiment but in Nadsat. -- nm - Hotkiss Nov 19, 10:40
- it's such a toolbag thing. It's dorkus mcmuchus run amok -- nm - CQ Nov 19, 10:39
- and what if you're a Klingon Lingust that speaks earth? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Nov 19, 10:39
- There's also a pretty good chance that if you're a linguist, you're a nerd -- nm - Roger More Nov 19, 10:39 2
  - Even if you're a cunning one? -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Nov 19, 10:42
  - or a collector of old Canadian stamps -- nm - Danedukenuuk Nov 19, 10:40
all that aside, I definitely want to pick up The Pirate Latitudes after it's published next week. -- nm - Max Nov 19, 10:38
2012: B. Certainly better than expected. Maybe a little long... - Dr.Vermin Nov 19, 10:37 2
- That's good because I was kind of looking forward to seeing this. -- nm - Loyola Nov 19, 10:41 1
  - It's certainly head and shoulders above Transformers 2 in both effects *and* story/acting/character development/etc. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Nov 19, 10:51

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