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In response to "re: im - I looked that up some time ago when it came up elsewhere." by b!

see, this kind of conflicts with my experience of them. most flat whites have foam (but less than a latte), and generally one shot of espresso

vs. the latte's two, but also less milk so I suppose the strength evens out. they do always come in different cups though. latte is generally something bowl-like, and the flat white is usually in a glass or small cup.

I usually get a long or short macchiato anyway.


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