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In response to "I think BABIP tells a story. " by groiny

In the particular case of Cole Hamels, it wasn't a fluke that he got hit so hard this year. Anyone who watched him knows his stuff wasn't as good.

Posted by David (aka David) Nov 25 '09, 14:40

That's what happens when guys pitch into November the previous year. Teams burn staff aces in trying to win a world championship. It's why Carpenter lost a couple of years.

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As good as 2008, no probably not. But it was almost identical to 2007. - musubi Nov 25, 14:44 10
- This is that Pedro Astacio nonsense all over again. -- nm - David Nov 25, 14:52 3
  - No, it's really more like your Babe Ruth nonsense, again. (nm) - musubi Nov 25, 15:07 2
    - I don't recall ever talking up Babe Ruth's strikeout tally. -- nm - David Nov 25, 15:08
    - ooh, this is getting good! nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 15:07
- strikeouts were not the problem, giving up frozen ropes all over the field was. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 14:46 5
  - Actually it wasn't. He gave up 20.8% line drives in 2009. In 2008, his banner year? 21.8% (nm) - musubi Nov 25, 14:50 4
    - he had a gold glover at SS, and a potential GG at 3rd. - groiny Nov 25, 14:51 3
      - First, surely you'll acknowledge, that just by luck (hello BABIP) even good fielders can't get to all line drives right? - musubi Nov 25, 14:54 2
        
        what stat tells you this? nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 14:55 1
        
        1) My eyes. He takes weird routes to balls, particularly in center. - musubi Nov 25, 15:00

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In the particular case of Cole Hamels, it wasn't a fluke that he got hit so hard this year. Anyone who watched him knows his stuff wasn't as good.

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