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In response to "I'm not saying you shouldn't. But BABIP adds to the picture." by musubi

there are 30 pitchers in baseball this year who pitched 175+ innings with a WHIP better than his.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Nov 25 '09, 14:42

and it is clearly a case of what have you done for me lately?

I like Hamels as a pitcher, but he had a miserable year.

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I'm not saying he was Cy Young. He had an off year. It doesn't take advance metrics to see that. - musubi Nov 25, 14:57 9
- you were comparing him to the top 3 on the Cards, and I simply - groiny Nov 25, 14:59 8
  - I didn't compare him. Will did. I don't think he's as good as Carp or Wainwright by *any* stretch. But he's not bad. - musubi Nov 25, 15:04 7
    - ok, but you did say, despite his awful run in the post season, that you wouldpitch him over Myers.... - groiny Nov 25, 15:06 6
      - Hell yes. Myers is a mediocre pitcher and beats his gifrlfirend. Hamels is *way* better than him. - musubi Nov 25, 15:10 5
        
        2009: Hamels ERA 4.32, WHIP 1.29 , Myers ERA 4.87, WHIP 1.37 - musubi Nov 25, 15:19 4
        
        did you even WATCH the playoffs? nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 15:20 3
        
        He was pretty terrible. I'd still bet on him being better than Myers *any* day of the week. - musubi Nov 25, 15:24 2
        
        he got shelled every start since the playoffs started. - groiny Nov 25, 15:27 1
        
        Benching Hamels for Myers would be like Guy benching Pujols for being on a 0-25 streak. - musubi Nov 25, 15:31
upon further review make it 40 with 160+ innings. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 14:45

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