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In response to "In the particular case of Cole Hamels, it wasn't a fluke that he got hit so hard this year. Anyone who watched him knows his stuff wasn't as good." by David

As good as 2008, no probably not. But it was almost identical to 2007.

Posted by musubi Nov 25 '09, 14:44

his stuff was fine, you don't strike out 168 batters without being at least pretty good.

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This is that Pedro Astacio nonsense all over again. -- nm - David Nov 25, 14:52 3
- No, it's really more like your Babe Ruth nonsense, again. (nm) - musubi Nov 25, 15:07 2
  - I don't recall ever talking up Babe Ruth's strikeout tally. -- nm - David Nov 25, 15:08
  - ooh, this is getting good! nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 15:07
strikeouts were not the problem, giving up frozen ropes all over the field was. nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 14:46 5
- Actually it wasn't. He gave up 20.8% line drives in 2009. In 2008, his banner year? 21.8% (nm) - musubi Nov 25, 14:50 4
  - he had a gold glover at SS, and a potential GG at 3rd. - groiny Nov 25, 14:51 3
    - First, surely you'll acknowledge, that just by luck (hello BABIP) even good fielders can't get to all line drives right? - musubi Nov 25, 14:54 2
      - what stat tells you this? nm -- nm - groiny Nov 25, 14:55 1
        
        1) My eyes. He takes weird routes to balls, particularly in center. - musubi Nov 25, 15:00

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